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Post #16666: 9th Mar 2018 10:03 PM 
Igor @ 9/3/2018 20:59
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The dude took money from people to do whatever he wanted with it. That's like the legal definition of fraud.


Nah, he put it into another business venture, i.e. another form of an investment
They made money and they are happy
win/win


He DEFRAUDED people by taking their money and doing something with it that wasn't what they signed up for. The results don't matter. He could have spent it all on Powerball tickets, and win or lose, it's still fraud.
 
   
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Post #16667: 9th Mar 2018 10:10 PM 
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Igor @ 9/3/2018 15:34
Curtis @ 9/3/2018 16:28
haha, your boy cried like a little bitch Igor


Obviously faked it to try to get a shorter sentance
7 years is a joke for what he did, he didn't defraud investors, he still made them money
It's kind of insane that they are coming after him, the real thing he is guilty of is lying to investors about what he was doing with their money.
It's 100% based on his antics and the feds want to make an example out of him
Hope he can appeal

Lol. You have no fucking clue.

He lied to get them to invest and set up a fucking ponzi scheme to bail out his previous failures.


Holy shit dude, you're fucking retarded
You clearly do not know what a ponzi scheme is, he was actually found not guilty on that
Man, I'm worried that you guys may have dementia...you guys should get that checked out.
It's a serious problem as you get to that age m8
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Post #16668: 9th Mar 2018 10:11 PM 
Spin @ 9/3/2018 22:03
Igor @ 9/3/2018 20:59
Spin @ 9/3/2018 21:56
The dude took money from people to do whatever he wanted with it. That's like the legal definition of fraud.


Nah, he put it into another business venture, i.e. another form of an investment
They made money and they are happy
win/win


He DEFRAUDED people by taking their money and doing something with it that wasn't what they signed up for. The results don't matter. He could have spent it all on Powerball tickets, and win or lose, it's still fraud.


His only unethical behavior is lying about hedge fund performance. All actions after that are ethical. The investors are clearly happy, the guy knew what he was doing and did not mean to cause harm. It's all semantics from the government at this point.
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Post #16669: 10th Mar 2018 7:55 AM 

Igor, you need to learn how investing actually works before spouting off anymore. Once again, when you get scammed (and it won't be if, but when), please come back and tell us.
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Post #16670: 10th Mar 2018 7:57 AM 
Igor @ 9/3/2018 22:11
Spin @ 9/3/2018 22:03
Igor @ 9/3/2018 20:59
Spin @ 9/3/2018 21:56
The dude took money from people to do whatever he wanted with it. That's like the legal definition of fraud.


Nah, he put it into another business venture, i.e. another form of an investment
They made money and they are happy
win/win


He DEFRAUDED people by taking their money and doing something with it that wasn't what they signed up for. The results don't matter. He could have spent it all on Powerball tickets, and win or lose, it's still fraud.


His only unethical behavior is lying about hedge fund performance. All actions after that are ethical. The investors are clearly happy, the guy knew what he was doing and did not mean to cause harm. It's all semantics from the government at this point.


LYING TO INVESTORS IS FRAUD.

Again, getting caught for going 110 in a 65 is speeding; whether you crash or not does not matter. It is illegal. The fact you don't grasp this is why you will get ripped off one day and cry about it to everyone.
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Post #16671: 10th Mar 2018 9:30 AM 

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Post #16672: 10th Mar 2018 10:07 AM 
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I’m getting old too I really should have one as well.
 
   
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Post #16673: 10th Mar 2018 10:27 AM 
We just learned Ben and vlady like warm beer and watered down drinks.

I've also seen the "ladies" version of that with wine bottles and glasses.
 
   
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Post #16674: 10th Mar 2018 10:35 AM 
I was looking at the sky vodka, JD and makers mark, I drank beer in the shower in college. I’m good not doing that anymore.
 
   
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Post #16675: 10th Mar 2018 11:08 AM 
Spin @ 10/3/2018 10:27
We just learned Ben and vlady like warm beer and watered down drinks.

I've also seen the "ladies" version of that with wine bottles and glasses.


The only stuff in there that would be in my cabinet is Makers Mark. The Camerena Silver is decent, but I haven't had that reposado pictured. Also haven't had the bourbon on the far right. I'm a Stoli vodka drinker myself.
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Post #16676: 11th Mar 2018 1:26 AM 
FU Daylight Savings Time. I want my hour of sleep back.

 
   
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Post #16677: 11th Mar 2018 7:51 AM 

One of our foxes just visited our backyard. Here they are in the side yard:

https://arlo.netgear.com/hmsweb/users/library/share/link/63F5FBCEB24A642D_201803

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Post #16678: 11th Mar 2018 7:53 AM 
Spin @ 11/3/2018 1:26
FU Daylight Savings Time. I want my hour of sleep back.


I had to be at work at 7am, it’s brutal. I can’t wait till 3 so i can go home and nap
drrrrr @ 9/11/2017 18:03
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Post #16679: 11th Mar 2018 7:56 AM 
vladykins @ 11/3/2018 7:51

One of our foxes just visited our backyard. Here they are in the side yard:

https://arlo.netgear.com/hmsweb/users/library/share/link/63F5FBCEB24A642D_201803


Foxes are bastards, they always come out around this time of year and harass my rabbit

Do you leave stuff out for them?
 
   
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Post #16680: 11th Mar 2018 9:10 AM 
Mike @ 11/3/2018 7:56
vladykins @ 11/3/2018 7:51

One of our foxes just visited our backyard. Here they are in the side yard:

https://arlo.netgear.com/hmsweb/users/library/share/link/63F5FBCEB24A642D_201803


Foxes are bastards, they always come out around this time of year and harass my rabbit

Do you leave stuff out for them?


Yep- we have a whole group that visit.

Our security cameras are "critter cams" too.
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