Also about Zach - I also agree with Badger that getting him out of the way and truly being able to see what his role is may just be the smartest route. It'll provide so much clarity and I think it'll make everything a bit more clear.

So yeah, those are basically the 3 I believe we should be going after today: Merc, Stephen, Zach.

Miko @ 25/5/2017 16:07

So the entire reason why I initially put Merc off my scum list was because he didn't go anywhere on N2, but the more I'm reading into it I'm starting to feel like he may be GF or Ninja. He hasn't looked good since, and him basically orchestrating the Maddie lynch based off of something she 'may say' was weird and not very town-like. I've been sticking up for him considering I knew it was likely he was town after N2. But every day I just get more weary. It sucks because I want to trust him but I can't.

It's a thing she literally says ya know, and I told her the day was ending (:

I had a theory Ahoda tracked Zach and that he saw him visit Lamps, but it seems he tracked Farlig and Maddie.

Hey guys, I'm going to be in and out for the next couple of hours. I'm fully expecting to be lynched today, but hope that you all go after someone else. I think we can hit scum out of the "main suspects" pushed forward today.

I'm going to put my vote on Stephen. Mostly everyone who has wagon'd me in the past two days has had pretty good logic (even if I disagree) except for him, so I think he's most likely to be the main scum pusher.

##lynch stephen

I think merc is likely third party so wouldn't mind lynching him as well.

But if you guys end up voting me then I understand and wish you all luck! Town's got this!

Where's everyone?

I think Stephen/Helios are town so I'd rather avoid them tbh.

Busy rn tho.

Mercator @ 25/5/2017 19:20

Miko @ 25/5/2017 16:07 So the entire reason why I initially put Merc off my scum list was because he didn't go anywhere on N2, but the more I'm reading into it I'm starting to feel like he may be GF or Ninja. He hasn't looked good since, and him basically orchestrating the Maddie lynch based off of something she 'may say' was weird and not very town-like. I've been sticking up for him considering I knew it was likely he was town after N2. But every day I just get more weary. It sucks because I want to trust him but I can't. It's a thing she literally says ya know, and I told her the day was ending (: I had a theory Ahoda tracked Zach and that he saw him visit Lamps, but it seems he tracked Farlig and Maddie.

If you had suspicions that Maddie was writing the messages, it should have made you LESS inclined to lynch her, not more. We had a way to verify the role's information, and it is an EXTREMELY strong role if it's in the hands of town.

More importantly, the last thing you want to do with a role like that is OUT the person if you have a suspicion of who they are - and you directly attempted to do that when you cast your vote yesterday. In addition to the two other times when you appear to have been baiting the person to come forward.

I still think the right vote is Zach but you are making it extremely difficult not to lynch you right now.

## lynch Nofo

Although I'd be fine with Sock too.

Miko @ 25/5/2017 19:09

There is so much stuff working against Stephen at this point; and if Helios is indeed silenced, it wouldn't even surprise me that mafia did indeed do it so that they'd be rid of his superb analysis of game dynamics for a day. And in that case Stephen comes across as even more sketchy based off of the Helios quotes Badger sent.

I agree that Helios silenced does not look favourable for me, simply because he was so vocal towards me at the end of last round, but at the same time so was Merc. Regardless I came into today and defended my last minute Zach vote. If I were a silencer, I would not silence Helios as that's too obvious. I think Helios was silenced and the repercussion of that is it is to paint me in a bad light which can cause a mislynch and let the mafia survive unscathed.

Christ will people start voting already? We're at 55 mins to deadline and the largest lynch train is has two people on it.

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 19:21

Hey guys, I'm going to be in and out for the next couple of hours. I'm fully expecting to be lynched today, but hope that you all go after someone else. I think we can hit scum out of the "main suspects" pushed forward today. I'm going to put my vote on Stephen. Mostly everyone who has wagon'd me in the past two days has had pretty good logic (even if I disagree) except for him, so I think he's most likely to be the main scum pusher. ##lynch stephen I think merc is likely third party so wouldn't mind lynching him as well. But if you guys end up voting me then I understand and wish you all luck! Town's got this!

How does my logic differ from anyone else's? I mean I get why you would think that because a lot of it had to do with the role, but as I cleared up earlier it's a novice mistake and whether you're going to believe it or not, that's not my call. What I do know is regardless of everything, there's three kills last night and of which you weren't killed:

- Thisisbad bus drivers Badger and Rose. Rose's role flip talks about the fractional kill and the wiping of a role description, which I'm assuming was used on Curtis as he showed up with no role. This means that she did not have her fractional kill this round. I've looked up bus driving (here we go again) and correct me if I'm wrong. Can it be possible that the mafia killed Badger, and due to the bus driving it didn't go through as Badger and Rose's actions were flipped for the night. If this is the case, why the hell did they not kill you if you were the princess?

BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 16:50

Mercator @ 25/5/2017 19:20 Miko @ 25/5/2017 16:07 So the entire reason why I initially put Merc off my scum list was because he didn't go anywhere on N2, but the more I'm reading into it I'm starting to feel like he may be GF or Ninja. He hasn't looked good since, and him basically orchestrating the Maddie lynch based off of something she 'may say' was weird and not very town-like. I've been sticking up for him considering I knew it was likely he was town after N2. But every day I just get more weary. It sucks because I want to trust him but I can't. It's a thing she literally says ya know, and I told her the day was ending (: I had a theory Ahoda tracked Zach and that he saw him visit Lamps, but it seems he tracked Farlig and Maddie. If you had suspicions that Maddie was writing the messages, it should have made you LESS inclined to lynch her, not more. We had a way to verify the role's information, and it is an EXTREMELY strong role if it's in the hands of town. More importantly, the last thing you want to do with a role like that is OUT the person if you have a suspicion of who they are - and you directly attempted to do that when you cast your vote yesterday. In addition to the two other times when you appear to have been baiting the person to come forward. I still think the right vote is Zach but you are making it extremely difficult not to lynch you right now.

No it made me more inclined because I think he is telling the truth about his claim.

The claim is so unusual I can hardly believe it's not the truth, and lynching him would be a mistake, despite your faulty logic that we should do it sooner than later (Since if we do it sooner the town vs scum ratio would probably tilt a fair amount, letting scum more easily control the narrative, that is if he is the princess).

Stephen @ 25/5/2017 17:08

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 19:21 Hey guys, I'm going to be in and out for the next couple of hours. I'm fully expecting to be lynched today, but hope that you all go after someone else. I think we can hit scum out of the "main suspects" pushed forward today. I'm going to put my vote on Stephen. Mostly everyone who has wagon'd me in the past two days has had pretty good logic (even if I disagree) except for him, so I think he's most likely to be the main scum pusher. ##lynch stephen I think merc is likely third party so wouldn't mind lynching him as well. But if you guys end up voting me then I understand and wish you all luck! Town's got this! How does my logic differ from anyone else's? I mean I get why you would think that because a lot of it had to do with the role, but as I cleared up earlier it's a novice mistake and whether you're going to believe it or not, that's not my call. What I do know is regardless of everything, there's three kills last night and of which you weren't killed: - Thisisbad bus drivers Badger and Rose. Rose's role flip talks about the fractional kill and the wiping of a role description, which I'm assuming was used on Curtis as he showed up with no role. This means that she did not have her fractional kill this round. I've looked up bus driving (here we go again) and correct me if I'm wrong. Can it be possible that the mafia killed Badger, and due to the bus driving it didn't go through as Badger and Rose's actions were flipped for the night. If this is the case, why the hell did they not kill you if you were the princess?

If you look at today, the obvious answer is to be able to lynch him today.

Miko, do you have any results for us?

##unlynch

##lynch zach

##lynch Zach