If Mafia had protection/healing/defense skills, they could just use those all nights and let the town destroy each other.

Seems like we have quite a few playing like terrible vigilantes ...

Dadd @ 24/8/2016 11:35

Seems like we have quite a few playing like terrible vigilantes ...

TELL ME ABOUT IT

:ahoda: :vern:

Mass claim!

vladykins @ 24/8/2016 11:30

Helios Garabandia @ 24/8/2016 10:27 vladykins @ 24/8/2016 10:53 Helios Garabandia @ 24/8/2016 9:52 vladykins @ 24/8/2016 10:39 Helios I have not played with before so I'm having a hard time reading him but I'm almost certain he is the one hitting im317 every night. Either that or IM is lying his ass off about being attacked. I don't know what it says for either of them. Nope. I've attacked zero people this game. You may not be lying, if you don't feel IM is a person! :awesome: I think he's scum, does that count? :awesome: Do you think he is lying about getting attacked for the same amount each day?

My gut says yes.

To back this up, I need access to the Overwatch wiki that's been linked a few times. Of course, I've just discovered my job has decided to block it because it's "inappropriate". So I'll have to look this up when I get home.

Helios Garabandia @ 24/8/2016 10:39

vladykins @ 24/8/2016 11:30 Helios Garabandia @ 24/8/2016 10:27 vladykins @ 24/8/2016 10:53 Helios Garabandia @ 24/8/2016 9:52 vladykins @ 24/8/2016 10:39 Helios I have not played with before so I'm having a hard time reading him but I'm almost certain he is the one hitting im317 every night. Either that or IM is lying his ass off about being attacked. I don't know what it says for either of them. Nope. I've attacked zero people this game. You may not be lying, if you don't feel IM is a person! :awesome: I think he's scum, does that count? :awesome: Do you think he is lying about getting attacked for the same amount each day? My gut says yes. To back this up, I need access to the Overwatch wiki that's been linked a few times. Of course, I've just discovered my job has decided to block it because it's "inappropriate". So I'll have to look this up when I get home.

So now you have me curious.

Can you look up the info elsewhere? Lots of Overwatch info out there.

vladykins @ 24/8/2016 11:43

Helios Garabandia @ 24/8/2016 10:39 vladykins @ 24/8/2016 11:30 Helios Garabandia @ 24/8/2016 10:27 vladykins @ 24/8/2016 10:53 Helios Garabandia @ 24/8/2016 9:52 vladykins @ 24/8/2016 10:39 Helios I have not played with before so I'm having a hard time reading him but I'm almost certain he is the one hitting im317 every night. Either that or IM is lying his ass off about being attacked. I don't know what it says for either of them. Nope. I've attacked zero people this game. You may not be lying, if you don't feel IM is a person! :awesome: I think he's scum, does that count? :awesome: Do you think he is lying about getting attacked for the same amount each day? My gut says yes. To back this up, I need access to the Overwatch wiki that's been linked a few times. Of course, I've just discovered my job has decided to block it because it's "inappropriate". So I'll have to look this up when I get home. So now you have me curious. Can you look up the info elsewhere? Lots of Overwatch info out there.

I'm looking back at the D1 character lists that were posted. That might do it.

Everyone targeting me has to be scum because how could town be so stupid to target me, mayor or Townsville, like I've claimed? Haven't I claimed enough?

And I'm def not in cahoots with Wikey gross never yuck.

And Daddy my posts seem "off" because I'm sleepy as fuck, haven't been sleeping, and tired of defending myself from needless lynch votes.

If everyone feels like it's necessary to lynch town, which is really dumb, since town needs to survive to win the game, then please, kill me and you'll see how dumb you all are.

Guess we're gonna drop like flies the next couple days, which at least narrows down the possibilities.

Has anyone claimed taking less than 70HP damage? That seems to be the lowest amount anyone has claimed in the topics.

Drake @ 24/8/2016 16:52

Everyone targeting me has to be scum because how could town be so stupid to target me, mayor or Townsville, like I've claimed? Haven't I claimed enough? And I'm def not in cahoots with Wikey gross never yuck. And Daddy my posts seem "off" because I'm sleepy as fuck, haven't been sleeping, and tired of defending myself from needless lynch votes. If everyone feels like it's necessary to lynch town, which is really dumb, since town needs to survive to win the game, then please, kill me and you'll see how dumb you all are.

Missed it, what are your abilities?

Yay claims.

At this point, I'm leaning im or drake, probably more drake. I will wait to see if more info pops up before I leave work, but this is the direction I''m leaning.

I am rereading the game day threads to see if I can pull some useful info, especially from the lynch trains:

D1 - I never put a ton of stock into D1 discussions, but the lynch counts can be useful. The lynch really came down to ahoda or herm. I've noted my thoughts on these wagons before, but I'll reiterate so that my thoughts are down as a whole:

From the ahoda wagon - curt, Sab (dead – town), Chris and dr (was massively attacked), (read Vern as town for now). That pretty much leaves curt and Chris as questions from that wagon for me.

From the herm wagon - spin (dead – town) and Helios (I see odd's role as town currently). That leaves really just helios as a suspect looking at this wagon.

If ahoda is town, then I'm not sure what benefit scum would have to jump on one of them late OTHER THAN getting an extra 5 ULT points. Is that worth it that early to pick up unnecessary attention? Not sure. If ahoda is scum, I'm looking harder at those on the herm train for perhaps saving ahoda. So helios would jump to the top of my scum reads and Odd would jump up a lot as well.

Conclusions from D1 - TBD, but would swing hard if ahoda ends up being mafia.

D2 - The lynch came down to Sab (town) and Vern. A lot of people stated that they see Vern as town and it was tied late. I personally voted Sab because I didn't like the way he popped in nonchalantly and then voted Vern just to save himself.

Here's the count: D2 Final Tally

Sabataged (6/11) - Ahoda, Spin, Vern, Drake, Lamps, Timmah, im317, Helios
Vern (4/11) - Merc, Chris, Vlady, Wikey, Sabataged
Drake (2/11) - Christian, Curtis, thisisbad
Brian (2/11) - Spin, dr
Spin (2/11) - Sabataged, Oddilus
Angi (1/11) - Ahoda
Wikey (0/11) - Oddilus, Angi
im317 (0/11) - Helios
Christian (0/11) - Drake
Merc (0/11) - Angi

Sab was town and I still read Vern is town. IF Vern is indeed town, then I have some of the same thoughts from the D1 lynch - is it worth the extra 5 ULT points to draw attention by jumping onto a town lynch if the lynch is between 2 townies? Again, not sure. Using that logic, I'm looking at those who "threw off" after it was tied up or close late in the day:

-Curtis threw off onto Drake, but later unvoted and ended without a vote (I'd think scum would be more likely to have a vote somewhere just for the points, but maybe not).
-Odd commented, but never used his 2 votes.
-I stated that I didn't like Sab's vote on Vern and was willing to lynch Sab over Vern.
-317 voted Sab because he read Vern as town.
-TIB says he thinks Vern is town and isn't sure about Sab, but then throws off onto a Drake vote without any reasoning.
-spin threw off onto brian and then made sure everyone know he no longer agreed with a Sab lynch
-Drake was all over the thread during this time without doing anything
-Christian and TIB then start talking about flipping the vote to Wikey
-rose says she would rather lynch Wikey or brian, then tosses one off onto brian to make sure she gets ULT points

D2 conclusions: TIB sticks out to me during this for throwing a vote off without any reasoning, and then he started talking about flipping to another vote that wasn't really in play. Drake sticks out to me as well for commenting a lot without picking a side or saying anything substantive. I didn't like the way spin played things during that span (and I was clearly wrong on that one). Christian sticks out to me for what seems to have been trying to flip it last minute (Sab was town though, so not sure how that plays out). Rose's late throw off sticks out to me as well (but, with her claim of being massively attacked I'm sticking with rose more town than not).

D3 - Angi was SK, so I'm not sure what we can gain from that as both factions could be on there. Perhaps mafia was on early? Perhaps we can gather info from who "threw off" or avoided it again? It was essentially a 3 way race, with Chris and Angi perhaps being the main to candidates late in the day (that's how I read it as I was frantically trying to catch up). Here's the count:

Final Tally
Angi (5/11) - Ahoda, Wikey, Curtis, dr, Oddilus, Ahoda
Curtis (3/11) - Vlady, Angi, Ahoda, Drake
Chris (3/11) - Spin, thisisbad, Christian
Ahoda (1/11) - Chris
Dadd (1/11) - Lamps
Drake (1/11) - thisisbad, Wikey
Wikey (1/11) - Vern, Drake, Wikey
Brian (0/11) - dr
Helios (0/11) - Vern
im317 (0/11) - Helios

-The votes piled up on Curtis pretty quickly, before the tide shifted. Interestingly, Drake put Curtis well ahead with the reasoning basically being that Curtis had more votes than he had himself. That's something that sticks out to me.
-Then, for no reason at all Chris claimed that he is a silencer and silenced someone that was still allowed to talk (ahoda). Um... what????
-TIB comes in and makes the first move at this point to really swing the vote towards Chris (spin was already voting him, but this was the first swing move, imo). This may betelling if (a) Curtis is mafia or even if (b) Chris is mafia...
-Wikey doesn't want to lynch either, wants to lynch Drake instead
-Angi then gets called out for trying to float through and piggy-back everyone else - Curtis was first to do this
-dr flips to Angi based on a vibe. At this point of my reread, I'm struggling to formulate and reads based on people reading Angi, because they were correct reads on Angi...
-Christian straight up asks who he should vote and then says he'll probably just toss one on Angi or Chris. Odd post there that sticks out to me.
-Odd votes Angi for the same reasons others did
-Christian says it's Chris or Angi (this was while I was trying to catch up - so perhaps it's why I was thinking those were the 2 lynch candidates)
-most of the rest of the brief remaining day was me asking questions to figure out what was going on.

D3 Conclusions: It stands out to me that TIB appears to have tried to swing a vote for the 2nd straight day. Wikey is still playing an odd game. Chris totally messed up a role claim that was given for no reason to start with, which really sticks out. Drake is sticking out to me once again - I know it's his first game, but there's just a feel to his posts that says he's just trying to get by.

I am not caught up on D4 yet, since I've been spending my time compiling these thoughts. But, it also sticks out to me that in reading through I seem to just be missing several people altogether - Dadd, Merc, Lamps, vlady. I'd like to see more from wikey and brian as well.

drake seems town to me, y'all are trippin

Awesome Timmah but who are your main suspects

Ole' Vern @ 24/8/2016 11:08

Awesome Timmah but who are your main suspects

Let me get caught up on this day and then I'll start pointing fingers