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Congrats America. You have officially screwed the world!
 
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Post #136: 16th Jan 2017 11:13 AM 
Having been to a number of inaugurations, I'm used to them setting up the stages near the Lincoln for the pere-inaugural bands playing. The one getting set up right now is over the top extreme with crazy lighting everywhere- super huge compared to the simple stage and lights that were set up for U2 and company back in 2009. I just keep looking at it and thinking it is quite elaborate for the crappy lineup they have:

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“Toby Keith, Jon Voight, Jennifer Holliday, The Piano Guys, Lee Greenwood, RaviDrums, 3 Doors Down, and The Frontmen of Country (featuring Tim Rushlow, former lead singer of “Little Texas”, Larry Stewart of “Restless Heart” and Richie McDonald of “Lonestar”)


Outside of maybe three of those folks, I've never heard of any of them. And the one's I do recognize I can't stand. And Jon Voight isn't gonna sing, right? lol

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Post #137: 16th Jan 2017 2:26 PM 
I think the inauguration is going to be something akin to this

 
   
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Post #138: 16th Jan 2017 2:28 PM 
The commentator even says at the beginning

"Donald Trump is in a world he is not familiar with. This is not real estate"
 
   
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Post #139: 16th Jan 2017 5:34 PM 
Ok so I guess even the Springsteen cover band pulled out of the inauguration... lololol what a STRUGGLE

http://www.vulture.com/2017/01/springsteen-cover-band-drops-inauguration-gig.html?mid=twitter_nymag
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Post #140: 16th Jan 2017 9:09 PM 
I'd be happy to step in.

I'm gonna try get in touch with his people! I'd probably have a decent shot at this rate.

Srsly tho, I think it's lousy to pressure a band into pulling out of a gig just because people don't like the new president. A hard working band had to cancel a hugely lucrative gig due to political pressure! Yay?

So many annoying quotes in this article too (:

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But in 2017, every performance even tangentially connected to Trump is a political act, whether the artist likes it or not

But it wasn't a political act when they played twice for Obama? Maybe they should rephrase this: "In 2017, you are only allowed to play for Presidents that we like!"

And this cuntish comment form Steve Van Zandt

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Nice guys. Met them. I wouldn't say right or wrong. Up to them.

He should have stopped here. This was a good response! But then

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But it's naive to think one can separate Art and Politics. Art IS Politics.

Passive aggressive much? Seems to me he let them know his real opinion here. Also, fuck you Steve! Art is not politics.

Who are the bigots here?

Also, what the hell is up with all these musicians refusing to play as a 'protest'

They wanna protest they should do it in style and in a way that doesn't make them look like lazy whiny bitches. Volunteer to play, and then mock Trump to his FACE at the Gala, whilst getting paid to do it! Have they no imagination?
 
   
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Post #141: 16th Jan 2017 10:09 PM 
It will probably hurt their career, which is a shame.
 
   
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Post #142: 16th Jan 2017 10:14 PM 
I almost wanna watch this inaguration for once since it's shaping up to be a spectacle.
 
   
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Post #143: 16th Jan 2017 10:18 PM 
I'm so embarrassed by Trump's comments on NATO. Really, really disrespectful to the NATO allies who have lost their lives assisting the United States post-9/11.
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Post #144: 16th Jan 2017 10:20 PM 
Maddie S. @ 16/1/2017 22:18
I'm so embarrassed by Trump's comments on NATO. Really, really disrespectful to the NATO allies who have lost their lives assisting the United States post-9/11.

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Post #145: 17th Jan 2017 11:31 AM 


Wikey @ 16/1/2017 21:09
I'd be happy to step in.

I'm gonna try get in touch with his people! I'd probably have a decent shot at this rate.

Srsly tho, I think it's lousy to pressure a band into pulling out of a gig just because people don't like the new president. A hard working band had to cancel a hugely lucrative gig due to political pressure! Yay?

So many annoying quotes in this article too (:

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But in 2017, every performance even tangentially connected to Trump is a political act, whether the artist likes it or not

But it wasn't a political act when they played twice for Obama? Maybe they should rephrase this: "In 2017, you are only allowed to play for Presidents that we like!"

And this cuntish comment form Steve Van Zandt

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Nice guys. Met them. I wouldn't say right or wrong. Up to them.

He should have stopped here. This was a good response! But then

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But it's naive to think one can separate Art and Politics. Art IS Politics.

Passive aggressive much? Seems to me he let them know his real opinion here. Also, fuck you Steve! Art is not politics.

Who are the bigots here?

Also, what the hell is up with all these musicians refusing to play as a 'protest'

They wanna protest they should do it in style and in a way that doesn't make them look like lazy whiny bitches. Volunteer to play, and then mock Trump to his FACE at the Gala, whilst getting paid to do it! Have they no imagination?



Outside of pop crap, including a lot of crappy pop country and hip hop, music often *is* political. So it is kind of a misnomer to think otherwise. Hell, almost all my music tends to be political in one way or another. So it is kind of a silly statement to say otherwise.

And I don't think anyone wants to stand in bunch of a bunch of Trump fans at a concert and then bad mouth him. Baaaaaad idea.

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Post #146: 17th Jan 2017 11:51 AM 
I can think of more non political music than I can political, and I listen to a lot of both!

Anyway, he said all art is political. Which is dumb. Some art is, but it certainly doesn't have to be!

What is the political statement behind Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, or Clair De Lune? What is the politics of The Mona Lisa?

Also, standing in front of a bunch of Trump fans bad mouthing him would be hilarious. No respect for anyone who opts out of doing so (:
 
   
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Post #147: 17th Jan 2017 12:46 PM 
Wikey @ 17/1/2017 14:51
What is the politics of The Mona Lisa?

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The model, Lisa del Giocondo,[8][9] was a member of the Gherardini family of Florence and Tuscany, and the wife of wealthy Florentine silk merchant Francesco del Giocondo.

Back then, art was mostly a service for the rich and powerful.
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Post #148: 17th Jan 2017 12:47 PM 
Wikey @ 17/1/2017 11:51
I can think of more non political music than I can political, and I listen to a lot of both!

Anyway, he said all art is political. Which is dumb. Some art is, but it certainly doesn't have to be!

What is the political statement behind Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, or Clair De Lune? What is the politics of The Mona Lisa?

Also, standing in front of a bunch of Trump fans bad mouthing him would be hilarious. No respect for anyone who opts out of doing so (:


You can probably also think of a lot of pop musicians, which is why you can think of a lot of non-political music. And we can argue on many of these classical pieces being the pop music of their day, where the music is designed like modern pop to inspire just emotion and feeling. Even then, you still can get some political aspects sneaking in there. "Moonlight Sonata" was dedicated to his pupil Countess Giulietta Guicciardi- note: he originally intended to dedicate a different piece to her (Rondo in G, Op. 51 No. 2), but that one had to be dedicated to Countess Henriette von Lichnowsky instead, so Beethoven quickly looked to find another piece for Guicciardi. Political consideration overrode his personal interests in this case.

Mona Lisa? Actually, it is highly political for the time. It displays a noble woman totally different from how they were portrayed prior. The emphasis is not on the wealth she is wearing and her wealth is, in fact, not emphasized at all. She is also shown to be self-assured, which was more the style that aristocratic men had been portrayed prior. She gazes out at the viewer- highly unconventional for paintings in Da Vinci's time. He's most definitely making a political statement with his picture, though it is less recognizable now (much as people criticize Abraham Lincoln's "racism" when they view him from modern perspectives).

Key to music itself is Socrates and Plato's ideas in that music inflames passions and passions drive politics. I believe that it was Plato who said "When a society's music changes, the whole society changes." but I would have to confirm that quote. ;)


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Post #149: 17th Jan 2017 1:12 PM 
i'm not reading all that

didn't Dixie Chicks have their career fucked when they insulted Bush
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Post #150: 17th Jan 2017 1:18 PM 
Igor @ 17/1/2017 12:12
didn't Dixie Chicks have their career fucked when they insulted Bush made shitty music?


Yep
 
   
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