32 players. 2 dead Third Party. 4 dead Town.

I think we're looking for at least 2 more Mafia, possibly even 3.

If there is a Mason traitor then we can deal with it later. I can't believe we're looking at three vanillas and 1 Survivor (a role that I doubt) but who knows. It might be in this game since it fits the flavor. Oh wait, we said the same thing about Buffy but who knows.

## unlynch for now

dr @ 2/1/2015 17:50

tbh I can see Samm's just because I can see a possible character match. Metagaming at its finest DD's claim is kinda weird. I could see that as a role, but not really in this game.

I was thinking that maybe it was a Third Party alignment like the SK. If she were a "Town" Apprentice, why wouldn't she take up someone else's role when they died, like the Doctor or the Cop or whatever. But when Animal died, the second kill died with him. So I kind of believe DD.

Christian @ 2/1/2015 17:53

dr @ 2/1/2015 17:50 tbh I can see Samm's just because I can see a possible character match. Metagaming at its finest DD's claim is kinda weird. I could see that as a role, but not really in this game. I was thinking that maybe it was a Third Party alignment like the SK. If she were a "Town" Apprentice, why wouldn't she take up someone else's role when they died, like the Doctor or the Cop or whatever. But when Animal died, the second kill died with him. So I kind of believe DD.

Unless she's the Mafia Roleblocker. lol

And when I say she, I mean he.

i'm not really sure what i can say to remove any doubt. i mean it's a weird role but it is what it is.

personally i think one of the vanillas has to go until we strike mafia. surely one of them is a mafia unless it's somehow kat and a mason, but i highly doubt that

Well I don't think DD is third party or a serial killer. If he was we'd still have the other kill going. But it's just an odd claim, one that sets it apart from the vanillas while still being, functionally, vanilla. I could see it as a mafia claim to set itself apart from the vanilla claims. We don't have any town power roles left, so there's no danger of claiming vanilla or similar because they cant be caught in the lie.

I kind of have to agree with DD. One of the Vanillas has to die. It's just something about the number 4. :P

I'm not sure whether it's Kiwi or Tony, but I can't see Tony claiming to be Vanilla after Kiwi did, especially if he thought there couldn't be more than one. He also wasn't around in the last while to come up with something else, so I really feel like Tony feels he caught Kiwi in a lie.

We know Mafia had a role blocker, since Brian said he was blocked one night.

##Lynch Kiwi.

I keep forgetting about Kat. Honestly, I could get behind that. Claiming she gave Lamps a vest is strange, as is him saying he didnt get informed, but I could see her maybe saying that so that Lamps wouldn't be targetted by the SK. Then he would be free to protect the other scum without needing to protect himself. The Angi kill could have been a one-shot mafia daykill, and the gun story could have been a way of explaining the kill away. Mafia could have a RB and a one-shot daykiller still out there, or even a single mafia jack. Hell, Kat could be the mafia jack.

I think I believe Samm's claim for now.

And out of the three vanillas, Kiwi's most suspicious to me. Christian as second most suspicious. Tony as least suspicious. I'm not sure which of them to lynch though. Everyone just shrugged and went I'm vanilla.

I really hope there isn't a mason traitor on top of this lol.

Hermarajah @ 2/1/2015 18:11

I think I believe Samm's claim for now. And out of the three vanillas, Kiwi's most suspicious to me. Christian as second most suspicious. Tony as least suspicious. I'm not sure which of them to lynch though. Everyone just shrugged and went I'm vanilla. I really hope there isn't a mason traitor on top of this lol.

Start with Kiwi. If it's not him, do me next. Then Tony. :P

(sorry if I post twice. shit wifi at my parents)

Honestly I feel like Lamps denying whether or not he got a vest was the best thing to do if both were mafia as we've said time and time again all the roles are simple and true to how they usually are. the two item thing keeps killing me and the convenience of lamps and shadow isn't lost on me. Kat hardly comes on she could just check the mafia forum for what her claim could be and leave. but if we're going for one of the vanillas out of the three, personally I would think Kiwi is the scummiest

In all honesty though, what is the likelihood of there being 4 Vanilla Townies? Were there no more roles with abilities that could have been given out?

Oh, actually Lamps might have been protecting himself and the vest claim was setting up an alibi if he was attacked and survived. Him saying he didn't get it gives him distance if Kat is killed/lynched first and she flipped mafia ack. He could say that he was a random townie that she was claiming to give it to to give him an excuse.