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Discussion Topic: Where do you stand on Edward Snowden
 Poll Question: How do you view Snowden
Hero - not a criminal
 
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Spy - should be in jail
 
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Post #1: 16th Mar 2018 8:45 AM 
I have a feeling the majority of you guys will select Option 1 and say he's a hero but I would really like to know how you guys view him and the whole situation.

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Great job Ahoda

   
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Post #2: 16th Mar 2018 8:50 AM 
C. I’m a typical lazy American who is terribly uninformed on the topic
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Post #3: 16th Mar 2018 8:51 AM 
I actually think there is a bit of evidence that he is a CIA guy out to discredit the NSA. There's a lot of weird stuff in his "background", like how he went from a nobody in the military to suddenly having infosec role at NSA, plus the convenient "pretty girlfriend" he valiantly left behind. The CIA and its humint has been losing budget to NSA's electronics for some time and this was a bit of a shot back at them.
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Post #4: 16th Mar 2018 8:51 AM 
Curtis @ 16/3/2018 8:50
C. I’m a typical lazy American who is terribly uninformed on the topic



Spend 2 hours and watch the movie. It will give you the jist.
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Post #5: 16th Mar 2018 8:52 AM 
vladykins @ 16/3/2018 8:51
I actually think there is a bit of evidence that he is a CIA guy out to discredit the NSA. There's a lot of weird stuff in his "background", like how he went from a nobody in the military to suddenly having infosec role at NSA, plus the convenient "pretty girlfriend" he valiantly left behind. The CIA and its humint has been losing budget to NSA's electronics for some time and this was a bit of a shot back at them.



His GF move to Russia to be with him.
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Post #6: 16th Mar 2018 9:41 AM 
Ahoda @ 16/3/2018 8:52
vladykins @ 16/3/2018 8:51
I actually think there is a bit of evidence that he is a CIA guy out to discredit the NSA. There's a lot of weird stuff in his "background", like how he went from a nobody in the military to suddenly having infosec role at NSA, plus the convenient "pretty girlfriend" he valiantly left behind. The CIA and its humint has been losing budget to NSA's electronics for some time and this was a bit of a shot back at them.



His GF move to Russia to be with him.



Supposedly.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/182550-where-is-lindsey-mills-now-edward-snowdens-girlfriend-has-a-busy-life


But here's a fun little look at Snowden's supposed past:

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/who_is_edward_snowden_whistle-blower_hero_enemy_of_the_state


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Post #7: 16th Mar 2018 9:55 AM 
I don't know enough about him to say. I've learnt to be more cautious about whistle blowers in general recently.

 
   
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Post #8: 16th Mar 2018 11:10 AM 
vladykins @ 16/3/2018 9:41
Ahoda @ 16/3/2018 8:52
vladykins @ 16/3/2018 8:51
I actually think there is a bit of evidence that he is a CIA guy out to discredit the NSA. There's a lot of weird stuff in his "background", like how he went from a nobody in the military to suddenly having infosec role at NSA, plus the convenient "pretty girlfriend" he valiantly left behind. The CIA and its humint has been losing budget to NSA's electronics for some time and this was a bit of a shot back at them.



His GF move to Russia to be with him.



Supposedly.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/182550-where-is-lindsey-mills-now-edward-snowdens-girlfriend-has-a-busy-life


But here's a fun little look at Snowden's supposed past:

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/who_is_edward_snowden_whistle-blower_hero_enemy_of_the_state





The movie said she lives with him now. No idea though. Not sure how "truthful" that movie was as well.
Curtis @ 25/7/2017 9:44
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Post #9: 16th Mar 2018 2:53 PM 
Traitor that defected to Russia
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Post #10: 16th Mar 2018 3:15 PM 
I haven't seen the movie, but I know a few things about him/seen some interviews.

I'm not sure if a surveillance state is necessarily good or bad in the western world, it's a system of control in a way. I don't think he should be considered as a criminal for whistleblowing that shit, though. Although I'm not sure he's necessarily a hero either, it's hard to say.

I definitely don't think he's a spy, sounds like propaganda to me.
 
   
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Post #11: 16th Mar 2018 6:30 PM 
My view is the opposite of igor's, whatever that is.
 
   
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Post #12: 16th Mar 2018 6:50 PM 
I'm not too informed on the nuances of the situation but from what I know, he's much more of a hero. Whistleblowers are important for any corporation/nation, if everyone just stayed in line then corruption would never end
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Post #13: 16th Mar 2018 6:56 PM 
Igor @ 16/3/2018 13:53
Traitor that defected to Russia

http://www.ndimforums.com/fe/thread.asp?threadid=44&pid=268444#268444

hmmmmmm
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Post #14: 16th Mar 2018 7:06 PM 
Igor is obviously scum.
 
   
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Post #15: 16th Mar 2018 7:12 PM 
Boc @ 16/3/2018 18:56
Igor @ 16/3/2018 13:53
Traitor that defected to Russia

http://www.ndimforums.com/fe/thread.asp?threadid=44&pid=268444#268444

hmmmmmm


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