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Poll of the Day #200; political statements
 Poll Question: How many of these apply to you?
Abortion should be a right for every woman
 
14 Votes
(12%)
The death penalty is a necessary punishment
 
5 Votes
(4%)
Marijuana should be legal for recreational use in all 50 states
 
13 Votes
(11%)
Marriage is between a man and a woman only0 Votes
(0%)
The Confederate flag is not a racist symbol
 
3 Votes
(3%)
Climate change is a legitimate concern
 
17 Votes
(15%)
Anyone living on social security should be forced to pass a drug test
 
4 Votes
(3%)
The minimum wage needs to be raised
 
12 Votes
(10%)
Health care is a privledge, not a right
 
1 Vote
(1%)
There is nothing wrong with spanking your children
 
10 Votes
(9%)
Torture is necessary in the war on terror
 
2 Votes
(2%)
Only wrongdoers need to be worried about government surveillance
 
5 Votes
(4%)
I support the freedom of American born children of illegal immigrants
 
14 Votes
(12%)
Government programs to help the lesser advantaged are a waste of tax payer money
 
2 Votes
(2%)
Violent video games are a factor to consider as a root cause of mass shootings
 
3 Votes
(3%)
Igor is a fucking idiot
 
12 Votes
(10%)
 
Post #1: 16th Jan 2018 2:47 AM 
How many of these political statements apply to you?
 
   
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Post #2: 16th Jan 2018 2:51 AM 
If you look at it right now without voting you can judge me for my views
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Post #3: 16th Jan 2018 3:43 AM 
Abortion should be a right, women should chose the babies they kill
Death penalty is shit, nobody has a right to chose why people should die. Live in prison is a worse penalty anywayz
Marijuana should obvioulsy be legal
Anyone can marry who gives a fuck it doesn't affect me
Confederate flag is pretty racist
cliamge change is real
Drug test CEOs getting tax cuts/everyone that gets gov benefits if you do that shit, fuck that. it aint' the governments business whta drugs you do
Minimuum wage should be raised to at least $10 in the US, maybe more depending on the area/economy
health care is a right but the way to adress it is debateable
spanking ur children is retarded, they'll just be afraid of u and rebel. wtach black mirror yo
tortuen is inhumane and inefective
government survelience is shit but at the same time its necesarry against threats to our country/spies/terrorists. snowden/manning are scum traitors
ya i dont give a fuck about immigrants, just let em live. they work hard/grind harder than most people
welfare is fine, governmetn programs are too, just depends how they are run. overall its a net positive to society even if they are ran shitly
violent video games dont lead to shit, if the persion is a maniac they will do whatever they do
Igor is a fucking genius, suck my dick and listen to my wisdom you dumbfucks
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Post #4: 16th Jan 2018 9:46 AM 
Abortion should be a right for every woman - Yes, up to a certain point in the pregnancy

The death penalty is a necessary punishment - No, because no government should be given that much power.

Marijuana should be legal for recreational use in all 50 states - Yep

Marriage is between a man and a woman only - Well, I guess in the traditional sense it is. Separation of church and state works both ways, priests/pastords etc shouldn't be forced to marry gay couples imo, but as far as I know they aren't, and there is no chance that they will in the future? Civil Unions seemed to me a good alternative anyway. Don't know much about this subject really.

The Confederate flag is not a racist symbol - Not necessarily.

Climate change is a legitimate concern - I'd say yes, but one that most governments don't take seriously no matter how much they give it lip service. Plus, those who proclaim to care always insist the solution is bigger government, and I disagree with that. If we wanted to convert to green energy in the west, we could do it. Also, to combat it effectively, given that it is a worldwide phenomenon, everybody needs to be on board. Which includes all those developing nations which are reliant on fossil fuels to maintain their growth. Never gonna happen. Our best bet is new, cleaner technology.

Anyone living on social security should be forced to pass a drug test - Eh nah.

The minimum wage needs to be raised - Speaking for my own country, nah.

Health care is a privledge, not a right - I hate the thought that anybody would be left to die due to not having enough money. Socialized healthcare is a good idea, but if the NHS is anything to go by, it comes with a lot of challenges of its own. Healthcare in my country needs radical reform. I'm very confused how it works in the US.

There is nothing wrong with spanking your children - Don't really think a non-parent can have a real opinion on this, but I would say it depends.

Torture is necessary in the war on terror - I doubt its effectiveness. But I wouldn't know for sure, I've never tortured anybody.

Only wrongdoers need to be worried about government surveillance - NAH fuck that

I support the freedom of American born children of illegal immigrants - Can't speak for America, but I would not support this in Britain. If you don't control your borders, what is the point in having them?

Government programs to help the lesser advantaged are a waste of tax payer money - Bit Victorian again.

Violent video games are a factor to consider as a root cause of mass shootings - If anything I'd say they prevent more

Igor is a fucking idiot - Nah, tho I think he needs to smoke more of the wacky backy and chill sometimes.

Post Edited by wikey @ 16th Jan 2018 9:55 AM
 
   
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Post #5: 16th Jan 2018 10:25 AM 
I don't know what I was expecting for Poll #200, but this wasn't it.
 
   
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Post #6: 16th Jan 2018 10:33 AM 
Poll #201: what was Christian expecting for poll #200
 
   
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Post #7: 16th Jan 2018 12:36 PM 
Abortion should be a right for every woman - Yeppers

The death penalty is a necessary punishment - I actually do think so but it is obviously for serious crimes, like voting for Trump or leaving your Xmas decorations up until March.

Marijuana should be legal for recreational use in all 50 states - Hell yeah. Legalize and tax it.

Marriage is between a man and a woman only - Nope. I think everyone should have the right to be unhappy.

The Confederate flag is not a racist symbol - The Confederate Battle Flag that has been touted by racist groups and came to prominence as a symbol only when civil rights became more and more of an issue?

Climate change is a legitimate concern - Invest in new technology, peoples.

Anyone living on social security should be forced to pass a drug test - LOL nope. Any welfare testing is more expensive than the "problem" it solves and only serves to line the pockets of testing corporations.

The minimum wage needs to be raised - Yep. For tipped people too.

Health care is a privledge, not a right - We already can't let someone die in the street due to lack of health care, no matter how much libertarians/conservatives try to let it happen. SO instead most people with no insurance go to the ER and use that resource, leading to longer waiting times for ERs. IN addition, they don't pay, which drives up the cost for everyone else, because that cost gets recovered in higher prices. So those who "don't want to pay for other people's HC" are fooling themselves if they think we don't already do that, but in the least efficient way ever.

There is nothing wrong with spanking your children - Spanking when they are young isn't bad, though scourging and shit is fucked up. And any spanking past a certain age is a bit weird.

Torture is necessary in the war on terror - Nope.

Only wrongdoers need to be worried about government surveillance - Nope.

I support the freedom of American born children of illegal immigrants - Yep. Hell, outside of security concerns, every other kind of capital is mobile these days, so why not human capital?

Government programs to help the lesser advantaged are a waste of tax payer money - Nope. And if you let the divide between haves and have nots get too large, you get a revolution where the haves might lose theirs.

Violent video games are a factor to consider as a root cause of mass shootings - Nope.

Igor is a fucking idiot - At times he acts like it, but when he's chill, he's chill.

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Post #8: 16th Jan 2018 12:38 PM 
In this thread, we learn Vlady is pro-human trafficking.
 
   
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Post #9: 16th Jan 2018 12:41 PM 
LOLno. In fact, opening up the border reduces human trafficking, especially people who sign with unsavory folks to get them across the border, only to lose their savings and get enslaved.
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Post #10: 16th Jan 2018 4:50 PM 
Abortion should be a right for every woman - Yes, up to a certain point in the pregnancy, but counseling should be more readily available pre and post abortion.

The death penalty is a necessary punishment - Yes if it could be done efficiently.

Marijuana should be legal for recreational use in all 50 states - Again, it depends on how efficiently it could be done. If it would take the criminal element out of the chain, yes. If the Governments vig is so high that it's still cheaper to get it illegally, then no.

Marriage is between a man and a woman only - No

The Confederate flag is not a racist symbol - Not necessarily.

Climate change is a legitimate concern - Yes, but I'm not sure there is much we can do about it. Like Wikey said. Everyone would have to get on board via new tech.

Anyone living on social security should be forced to pass a drug test - No, but I would be OK with some other requirements.

The minimum wage needs to be raised - yes, but slowly.

Health care is a privilege, not a right - Vlady is spot on with this one. The issue is that the whole industry is deeeply entrenched in our government, so it will never be fixed as long as the 2 parties and their payola system exists.

There is nothing wrong with spanking your children - Yes, but never out of anger, and only as a nuclear option.

Torture is necessary in the war on terror - Depends on the goal. "Tell us the location of the bomb" yes. "Are you a terrorist" No.

Only wrongdoers need to be worried about government surveillance - Don't even get me started.

I support the freedom of American born children of illegal immigrants - I do as long as they are properly taken care of by legal family members, adoptive parents, etc...

Government programs to help the lesser advantaged are a waste of tax payer money - Yes, but only because of the inefficiency with which the government manages that money.

Violent video games are a factor to consider as a root cause of mass shootings - No. Parenting and societal decay are more common culprits.

Igor is a fucking idiot - Yeah, but he's funny.
 
   
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Post #11: 16th Jan 2018 7:15 PM 
I guess this is where I question myself because with a majority of these questions, I just have a "you do you" attitude
 
   
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Post #12: 18th Jan 2018 3:10 AM 
Abortion should be a right for every woman
Yes, it should. It's their body.

The death penalty is a necessary punishment
No, but 100 years in an isolated prison cell is.

Marijuana should be legal for recreational use in all 50 states
Sure. Why not.

Marriage is between a man and a woman only
Marriage is between a person and a person.

The Confederate flag is not a racist symbol
I'm not sure tbh, I guess it could be in a way since they profited from slaves.

Climate change is a legitimate concern
Yes, it is definitely a very real concern. Not for me personally, but for future generations. I guess that's why there are so many skeptics, it takes time. Hopefully it takes longer than expected and there's time to reverse the effects with clean energy.

Anyone living on social security should be forced to pass a drug test
I don't think that's necessary.

The minimum wage needs to be raised
Not where I live! If the economy is growing it should technically be able to be accomplished, but not sure how it works obviously.

Health care is a privledge, not a right
Health care is a right, but it's really hard to mantain a working system that works perfectly for all. Even with universal care, there are problems with rising costs and long waiting lines. The government had to close down a hospital somewhere in northern Sweden because the cost of mantaining it got too expensive, it's caused great controversy here. Things were great 20-30 years ago. Not sure what the right answer is. Less humans?

There is nothing wrong with spanking your children
It's been illegal here since the 70's so I have to respectfully disagree.

Torture is necessary in the war on terror
Not sure if it's necessary tbh.

Only wrongdoers need to be worried about government surveillance
Yes, the government doesn't scare me. This completely depends on what country you live in, though. If I had lived in Russia, America, China or Turkey my answer would've probably been way different.

I support the freedom of American born children of illegal immigrants
If you are born in a country, you should be able to stay. Not in favor of completely open borders, though. Some process of who can and should stay has to be put in place, or the western world's gonna be swarmed by too many refugees.

Government programs to help the lesser advantaged are a waste of tax payer money
I don't think so.

Violent video games are a factor to consider as a root cause of mass shootings
There are kids playing violent video games here and no one's causing a fuss. Maybe there's a mental health component to it or something?

Igor is a fucking idiot
That's quite some strong language.
 
   
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Post #13: 18th Jan 2018 7:17 AM 
Herm @ 18/1/2018 3:10


Igor is a fucking idiot
That's quite some strong language.


This is the most Herm response.

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Post #14: 18th Jan 2018 7:35 AM 
Herm @ 18/1/2018 3:10
Violent video games are a factor to consider as a root cause of mass shootings
There are kids playing violent video games here and no one's causing a fuss.

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Maybe my favorite post of 2018.
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Post #15: 18th Jan 2018 10:22 AM 
I tend to be on the more conservative side so I am sure my opinion differs. However I think I did a good job of being neutral on most of these things.

Abortion should be a right for every woman
Very Torn on this. I am very against abortion, however I do agree it's not right to force someone to have a kid.

The death penalty is a necessary punishment
I'm against it.

Marijuana should be legal for recreational use in all 50 states
Eh. Lukewarm on this as well. It's fine I suppose but I do think it will have a negative effect on homelessness

Marriage is between a man and a woman only
Nah. Regardless of belief, there are benefits to marriage you cannot close off from people.

The Confederate flag is not a racist symbol
I don't think so. However i don't think it worth fighting over to keep either.

Climate change is a legitimate concern
I don't buy into the doomsday as much as is portrayed but I mean the facts are there that the earth is warming over the past century and we've drastically changed the way we live over the past 100 years.

Anyone living on social security should be forced to pass a drug test
Eh, it's probably fine. If it's unemployment than for sure. But when you are old and possibly retired, if you wanna do meth go for it.

The minimum wage needs to be raised
No. It would hurt local business and just make everything more costly. While I don't truly understand the difficulties of living on a small budget, but minimum wage was not meant for supporting families.

Health care is a privledge, not a right
Eh another slippery slope. I mean ideally it should be. That would be really nice. I don't think it's ridiculous to tax people that make money a little more to ensure that people can live healthy lives and not die. The issue is if it starts getting bad where being a doctor or nurses aren't paid as well I think the quality will go down.

There is nothing wrong with spanking your children
I mean there is a difference IMO between inflicting a little pain to fix a bad habit and beating your kid with a twig. I definitely think the former is fine.

Torture is necessary in the war on terror
I don't feel bad for the terrorists but if it doesn't work seems dumb.

Only wrongdoers need to be worried about government surveillance
Im not too worried about invasion of privacy.

I support the freedom of American born children of illegal immigrants
EH. Unpopular opinion here but maybe not? Like I see the stories of fathers leaving their kids after 20 years in the country and that is sad and should probably not happen. But if a couple parents sneak over and the kids like 5 when it is figured out, not sure he should be considered a citizen. It's tough because it's a case by case thing and they want to draw a line.

Government programs to help the lesser advantaged are a waste of tax payer money
No, but they are taken advantage of which is a big problem.

Violent video games are a factor to consider as a root cause of mass shootings
I don't think it helps and may trigger stuff in already unstable people.

Igor is a fucking idiot
He can be foolish sometimes, but he's p cool sometimes too.
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