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Episode 12: "If I'm The Hero"
 
Michael 'Vic' Vicario
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Post #31: 9th Dec 2018 8:46:17 PM 
Jess and Lexi still on call trying to debate what to do. Lexi is pushing a Bryce vote and Danny and Jess are pushing a Sarena vote. They feel Sarena is the safer option because they feel like Matt wouldn't vote out Bryce.
 
   
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Post #32: 22nd Dec 2018 2:33:15 PM 
I feel the need to address this here since Jayden has said it quite a few times.

I wasn't as much risk averse as it was biding time. If you thought you were 100% getting the brunt of that idol, you wouldn't want to hit it head on either. "But the idol gets out if you vote Jess" or, I go out of the game and then the idol being in or out doesn't even matter to me.

Plus, it's not like I was the only voice here. Matt didn't want Jess to go this round and I needed Matt to flip. Chris was terrified of that idol too, yet you shout his praises. This round, it was said I wasn't even getting voted for yet, toward the end, Lexi was pushing for me.

Jess was always ballsy (naive?) to hold the idol and we made the plays that made the most sense. Clearly you understand that you're seeing things from the outside so to bash me for not putting my life in the game on the line when there were plays in the future seems harsh. And to put that 100% on me is crazy.

I went for people that my allies were comfortable with. I felt in a good position. I needed people to flip for me, so pushing my own agenda was never necessarily smart.
 
   
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Post #33: 22nd Dec 2018 9:42:16 PM 
Bryce Fosdick @ 23/12/2018 5:33
I wasn't as much risk averse as it was biding time. If you thought you were 100% getting the brunt of that idol, you wouldn't want to hit it head on either. "But the idol gets out if you vote Jess" or, I go out of the game and then the idol being in or out doesn't even matter to me.

I get that! Disagree with "If you thought you were 100% getting the brunt of that idol, you wouldn't want to hit it head on either" though. Last season I flipped and gunned for Kilby's idol knowing full well that if the plan didn't work out and literally anything went wrong, he had complete power to idol me out. I understand wanting to bide time, it just wasn't what I would've personally done. I'm admittedly not a great player though, so for all intents and purposes it could have been the better play.

Bryce Fosdick @ 23/12/2018 5:33
Plus, it's not like I was the only voice here. Matt didn't want Jess to go this round and I needed Matt to flip. Chris was terrified of that idol too, yet you shout his praises. This round, it was said I wasn't even getting voted for yet, toward the end, Lexi was pushing for me.

I think my issue was more that I didn't see anybody in calls or address in confessionals that they pushed to Matthew to see if taking a shot at Jessaca was a thing he'd consider. I understand that at the end of the day it was Matthew's call, but I was just dissappointed to see no one seemingly make a pitch, even if they dropped it as soon as Matthew put his foot down and said no. If you guys did and I just missed it, that's my fault though and I apologise. I'm just trying to do the best commentary with the stuff I've managed to see.

And re: Chris, that's a good point. Honestly it comes down to two things, one is that I think I just saw you more pushing for the Lexi vote more than I ever remember seeing Chris push for it. Secondly, I think with Chris it seemed like there were times where he morseo had an in with Jessaca. Like for example in the Final 9(?) round where they were aligned for a brief moment. His working relationship with Jessaca seemed a little better than yours, so there in my head was always a chance that Chris could maybe work with Jessaca down the road and having her in the game wouldn't be as sub-optimal as it would've been for you. Same kind of goes for Sarena. Plus you had always been more vocal in wanting Jessaca out than the other two, so I think I always kind of viewed you and Jessaca as apposing sides and the longer she stayed in the game the worse it was for specifically you. Probably should have included them both in the criticisms though, so touche.

Bryce Fosdick @ 23/12/2018 5:33
Jess was always ballsy (naive?) to hold the idol and we made the plays that made the most sense. Clearly you understand that you're seeing things from the outside so to bash me for not putting my life in the game on the line when there were plays in the future seems harsh. And to put that 100% on me is crazy.

It wasn't 100% on you. Jessaca being able to bluff her idol from F11 to F5 comes down to a number of people. I was really harsh on Alejandro & Matthew over this throughout the season.

Bryce Fosdick @ 23/12/2018 5:33
I went for people that my allies were comfortable with. I felt in a good position. I needed people to flip for me, so pushing my own agenda was never necessarily smart.

I understand why you did everything you did. Like I told you, you were a Top 3 Player this season. I even talk about in the Episode 14 thread about how you've been a great player all season and I'm rooting for you all the way. I was probably over-critical with you on this issue, but these are nitpicky things in an otherwise great game you played.
 
   
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Post #34: 22nd Dec 2018 11:01:14 PM 
I realize that post came across harsh after reading it back.

Glad to hear your perspective though. Thanks! I think the reason why I didn't consider Jess at 7 was because Matt initially came over with a "We should do Lexi because it's safer" attitude and I think he felt worse betraying Jess than Lexi. So I never bothered to push it because I felt like he was already doing us a big favor by flipping, I didn't want to push him to the point he just went back to them and said screw it.

I was very scared of the idol though. I will admit. And I feel justified in how my game ended up. Basically, from what Jess and I talked about, if she ever got wind of anything and went to use it, she would have changed the target to me because she said using it on anyone else would have been a waste. I don't know if that was ever anything she said in her confessionals, but she definitely itely intended to hit me with that idol any time she could after f9. So, I was definitely scared.

Now I can't touch in her relationship with Chris because I don't know, but I do know that Jess felt me being in the game was better for her longevity so she didn't become a target. She preached that to me a lot. I even told her it wasn't her being in the game I was scared of, it was the idol being in the game. She didn't like that very much, according to Matt. 😋
 
   
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Post #35: 22nd Dec 2018 11:02:30 PM 
Thanks, Jayden!
 
   
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Post #36: 23rd Dec 2018 4:35:21 PM 
Bryce I wanted you dead the moment I met you if it means anything <3<3<3
One of my confessionals touch on it, they also touch on preferring Chris over you to work with had I needed to. Chris was always "man I love him I wish I could fit him into my plans" while with you it was "this guy is too likable and hes gotta go" I don't know if that gives you more insight on that particular matter.

but anyways, thats just my naive outlook :P

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Post #37: 24th Dec 2018 12:47:37 AM 
Jessaca Harrison @ 23/12/2018 16:35
Bryce I wanted you dead the moment I met you if it means anything <3<3<3


😳😳😳 No one has ever said this to me before.
 
   
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Post #38: 24th Dec 2018 12:48:18 AM 
My first confessional about you was "she acts like a sweetheart, but she'll cut your throat the minute she can."

So I guess we both got an accurate read 😋
 
   
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Post #39: 24th Dec 2018 2:28:22 AM 
I had the wrong Tribal Council voting for this episode, whoops! Here it is:


 
   
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Post #40: 24th Dec 2018 2:40:24 AM 
Oh god my voting confessional is fucking CRINGE
 
   
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Post #41: 24th Dec 2018 3:25:51 PM 
Bryce Fosdick @ 24/12/2018 1:47
Jessaca Harrison @ 23/12/2018 16:35
Bryce I wanted you dead the moment I met you if it means anything <3<3<3


😳😳😳 No one has ever said this to me before.


i wanted you dead before i met you (pre-swap i was like "screw legilimency!!". i think anders was too lol) but then i met u and was like <3
 
   
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Post #42: 25th Dec 2018 4:36:10 AM 
Chris O'Neill @ 24/12/2018 15:25
Bryce Fosdick @ 24/12/2018 1:47
Jessaca Harrison @ 23/12/2018 16:35
Bryce I wanted you dead the moment I met you if it means anything <3<3<3


😳😳😳 No one has ever said this to me before.


i wanted you dead before i met you (pre-swap i was like "screw legilimency!!". i think anders was too lol) but then i met u and was like <3


Exactly the same way I felt about both Anders and Danny before I knew who they were. Then wanted them even more dead after I met them.
 
   
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