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KilbEdgic; The story of the game - how I see it.
 
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Post #1: 7th May 2018 2:34:04 PM 


Okay: So each round I am going to make my perception of the game in the form of an edgic. Basically my fundamental rules will be: I will edit how I expect the TV show would edit it. Obviously just my tribe - so there will be no complex tribe analysis, its clearly us.

I'll do this near/after each boot. Hopefully this is fun. Here is an indepth explanation of each rating.

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And here is a basic overview.

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Post #2: 7th May 2018 2:37:30 PM 
It'll be interesting to compare this to Sam's that he usually does each round (obviously you can't see that till post season though)
 
   
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Post #3: 7th May 2018 2:41:03 PM 
Mine will be more reputable
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Post #4: 7th May 2018 4:14:03 PM 
You literally made a YouTube video to explain edgic I literally want to drink myself into a coma now
 
   
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Post #6: 9th May 2018 2:57:00 PM 
You know how pissed I am you didn't name this KilbEdgic again.

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This week on...Survivor.

This episode would largely focus on introducing the major characters and how they plan on maneuvering this game. The results were extremely basic, so more camp life/alliances and whatnot would be front and center. Reed flails big time by never being around, and when he is around being obnoxious and unbearable. He would get one Patrick-Bolton esque segment of him being shirtless, and then promptly booted.

This episode would likely be the story of Kilby forming bonds with everyone. If anyone has seen New Zealand Survivor or Australian Survivor - this premiere likely looks a lot like JT's in NZ or AK's in Australian. He forms groups with everyone, and then is the beneficiary of the Blinding Light Twist. This vote is probably edited to be more important and interesting than the actual boot of the episode. Perhaps a goofy montage of multiple people saying "Kilby is my number one". Will it have repercussions for the future of Kilby's game? Did he blow up his spot? The edit probably asks this question, but the answer remains to be seen.

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Sarena - OTTP4 likely gets VERY similar to Kilby content. Probably came #2 on the twist, and likely would ALSO get a huge moment of everyone loving her. She made a fantastic first impression, and the show would introduce her big time to the audience. She is a strong, social player ready to kick ass. Everyone left the first call utterly enamored with Sarena, and she's immediately a contender for that reason. She would probably talk about being a manager, and how she knows how to deal with all kinds of different personality. Her charm is her weapon - and it is working. I don't know how strategic she is thinking right now, and the edit would probably just pause to celebrate her social play.

Jacob/Sarena are likely edited to be a duo, and rope in Kilby. This is probably a fairly substantive part of the episode. This would likely look a LOT like Donathan/Laurel meeting up in the Premiere of Ghost Island. They both get decent content about one another and how they are becoming good friends.

Kilby/Jenn, Kilby/Jayden are all key aspects. There is likely a JT/Stephen, Ryan/Devon style meet up between Kilby and Jayden right away - two complex characters who are agreeing to work together despite being on other sides of the world. The seeds of Jayden vs Jacob are probably planted - but they won't be sewn for some time.

Kilby - CPP5
- Not a good look. A winner has never had a 5 visibility in the premiere - (Except Richard Hatch in season 1) for good reason. I hate that I have the "good" rating in this first episode, because I don't want to come off as if I'm going to give myself CP every round. I do think it would edit this episode largely around me, mostly because of the twist and how much I've been overplaying. I might lean into OTT, but probably have good enough reads here to get the CPP. The result of the blinding light backs that up. I assume people said good things about me in their confessional if they are putting me at #1. The audience leaves probably impressed by Kilby - but a keen viewer would be wary of him being overexposed early on.

This is where Jayden - CP3comes in. Jayden is playing an excellent under the radar game, and would likely get a confessional discussing that. His gameplay right now is under the radar, but his edit would be CP. He has Kilby who is feeding him all the information he has, which is a lot. For this reason, Jayden has a VERY good view of the gamestate without having to put himself in the spotlight at all. Often the winner is the person hiding behind the "most obvious" winner. Natalie to Jeremy, JT to Stephen - and a keen edgicer would pencil Jayden in as that person. No one is threatened by him, he is DANGEROUSLY smart, and probably would get a confessional discussing that he can get away with more because he's australian. This is the rating I had the hardest time with - there is a chance he gets a simple MOR confessional - if Kilby goes on to dominate - but I do think Jayden would stand up on his own in this premiere where not a lot is going on. Top contender at this point in time. The edit has legs.

Jacob CPM5 This is another where the rating was hard. People really like him, but the feud with Jayden could take center stage. Jacob is extremely out in the open, and everyone seems slightly threatened by him. The M tone is something I really don't like using - traditionally an M tone means that a player is drawing dead to win. I don't think that is quite the case with Jacob, but I can't imagine a pathway for him to win this game. He is overexposed like Kilby, but without the insulation to stay alive long term. He could also venture into OTT territory, but right now its probably unclear who comes out on top between him and Jayden. He likely talks about himself, introduces who he is and that he is the showrunner of Survivor boston, and hes ready to make big moves. He talked by far the most in the group call.

Speaking of Boston we have Harrison - UTRP2 If you blink, you might miss Harrison. But no one has a bad word to say about him. He probably would get only one confessional, but it'd be a good one. I would lock Harrison in as "the most likely to make it really, really far". He gives off an inoffensive vibe, and is very social. Jayden, Kilby, Jacob and likely more have good words to say about him, hence the P rating. He knows Survivor, but doesn't give off the calculated demeanor that Jacob and Kilby do. He is more like Jayden - hence #2 contender. He wouldn't be front and center - but he'd be introduced enough so the audience understands the game he is playing.

Jenn - This rating was hard too. I could see the argument for a few various ratings, UTR, lowvis CP. She is strategic, and is entering in as a decent threat. I ultimately went with MOR2 because she wasn't *super* focused on, but she was brought up a decent amount. Kilby wants to work with her, and told her about the target on her back. There is a target on her back, but she likely successfully sidestepped it. She hasn't "woken up" yet, but she probably will. Likely she gets the role of narrator. She told me that "she thinks the loud people in group calls miss things. They talk over other people, and aren't as observant as me. I think being quiet is a positive". This is enough to be CP, but I think she probably just scrapes by with a MOR. Her relationship to Kilby is probably front and center, but her strategic quietness probably pops on the episode. #4 because MOR is an excellent start for a winner, and she is dangerously close to a CP beginning. She will be a big character down the line, but just hasn't broke out of her intentional cocoon.

Joey - UTR2 Could see the argument for MOR, but probably is a little bit under the radar. Likely a decent amount of challenge focus, but not enough for P toneage. He is an older one on the tribe, and is concerned that people aren't talking to him - except Kilby. He likes Jenn and maybe the episode teases them getting together. Hard to tell. Joey is, for right now, a supporting character in the story. This isn't a bad spot, but he wouldn't be front and center - and he doesn't need to be. Everyone "kinda likes" him. As Jayden put it "if Joey is an alliance, people won't be turned off by it. Theyll be cool with it. Hes chill".

And that brings us to Andrew - UTR 2 - Another minor character so far. Could see the argument for low vis OTT, but I don't think he made enough of a mark for that. Many people say he is hard to talk to. Jayden says that if he's in an alliance, he would turn people off of working with that alliance. This is a young, similar cast - and he doesn't quite fit in. He is a real adult, and that might hurt him. He's known in the community, and probably gets a decent amount of challenge/camp life focus. Rarely would he dip into any complexity - right now he is the old sage. He has tips for all the challenges, twists - but perhaps is game belongs in a season that happened before. Very little insight into the future. Likely does not have much legs, but has the potential to dip into an extremely fun OTT character.

Finally, Tony - UTR1 He just is kind of inactive. Everyone likes him enough, doesn't hate him. Can't imagine this ever gets complex. He might even get INV'D. He didn't have to do the challenge, and was largely irrelevant to any happenings. Jayden is a fan of him - but not a whole lot, and mostly because of his age. This is probably similar to Libby's edit in the premiere. Seen talking in camp, but the audience may ask "who is that" because he never gets properly introduced.

Regicide - UTRN - Everyone thinks he is a douche, and this was talked about a LOT.
Redfern - UTRP - Cat. He is holding a cat. People like that.
Reed - OTTN1 One note. Defined by being shirtless and absent. Quits. Drives people mad. Could see the argument for UTRN, but I think he was completely defined by one characteristic, and that is THE definition of OTT.



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This week on...Survivor: Endure

The Wildlife Conservation Coalition Alliance (Kilby, Jenn, Jayden, Harrison, Joey) forms, and this is likely the major strategic content of the episode. Its formation, relationships to one another. This was a simple boot with many variables working behind the scenes.

Jacob's self destruction would be front and center - he is probably SO MUCH like Bradley Kleihege in Ghost Island. He thinks he is running the show and that this is his game to win. In reality, the WCC is onto him and have their guns ready. In fact, Jayden armed too heavily against Jacob. He looked over-eager to make moves, and turned some off due to this.

The boot target is relatively basic, but the decoys would be "will Jayden's goal of getting rid of Jacob work out?" and "will Joey flip on Jenn". Neither of these mattered, and that was extremely clear. Again, this episode would more focus on the heightening tensions happening in the background. This shotgun isn't going to fire just yet - but a battle is on the horizon.

For the purposes of this - I included Kilby's idol find, and telling Jenn in this episode.

Tony being ranked bottom (twice?) seemingly would be important here. He was booted for not really talking to anyone, and his journey was not a very exciting one. However, he got two idol clues, and seemingly passed those onto Kilby. His only content, really, would be about this. He was crawling in a game that was all out sprinting forward without him. Potential N tone for the jokes about his Sequester video. May Tiger Tony rest in peace. Endure was not ready for Tiger Tony.

The other decoy boot who had a tremendous episode is Jenn - CP4. This was her "coming out" episode. She joins the alliance, and theoretically goes from the bottom of the game to the top. She is firmly aligned with Kilby, and the rest of the WCC. She had the most to gain from the formation of the alliance, and handled it very well. Her social game improved, and her comedic style took center stage. People love Jenn a whole lot. In addition, Kilby told her about the idol. She has all the information with very few enemies. Could also see the argument for MOR - but I think with her gaining the most from the alliance, it was probably CP for her.

Jenn's chances skyrocketed, but Jayden - OTTM5's plummeted. He was number one contender last week - the chosen one. He was in a fantastic spot, very few enemies, and a whole lot of people who liked him enough. But that wasn't enough. Jayden not only pulls the trigger to form the alliance, but hammers home that he wants Jacob out. This made people sketchy and wary of him, and it hurt his chances big time. He doesn't come off as group-strong to others. Kilby trusts him unquestionably - but his aggressive desire to play hard is going to get the best of him. Trust is capital in the game of Survivor, and Jayden needs to learn that. OTT because defined by his aggressive gameplay that doesn't pan out, M because positivity from Kilby and negativity/wariness from the rest of the WCC.

Andrew - UTRM2 - Andrew is not in a good spot. He has VERY few connections, and the ones he does have are extremely obvious. He is M because the WCC does want him out extremely badly, but Sarena gave him the blinding light. This edit is weird. He isn't around much, but probably gets some decent personality content. His antics on calls bothers people - notably Jenn. He has very few options, and the audience should prepare for him being a premerge boot. Maybe an incredible Lucy Huang style downfall.

Jacob - OTTN4 "the worst thing you can do in a tribe of 9 is to make an alliance of 4." This guy was berated constantly from all sides this episode. He can't sit still. He is similar to Jayden, but is positioned terribly. He was the decoy boot. Everyone is sketched out by him. He makes people uncomfortable. He comes off like a snake, and everyone sees it. He is a snake, but he has no grass to cover him. He sells out everyone - and everyone can cross reference that. His game is abysmal. Really, really shoddy stuff. He is extremely captivating television, however. He continues to be Patrick Bolton. Joey rats out his information - everyone does. His only ally who remains is...

Sarena - OTTP2
- This is a weird edit, I know, I know. Don't @ me. I think Sarena's story is weird. She's tied to hyper-negative Jacob - but everyone stills loves her. She personified and defined by her social game. She is so damn charming. Everyone loves her to the point of absurdity. She wins the blinding light despite being in the minority. Her game is in shambles - but if anything can disrupt the power of the WCC - it is Sarena. She has this quality that people just love. And that is extremely powerful. The edit will make sure she gets content noting how strong she is socially. She is likely here for the long haul.

Harrison - UTR2 Harrison is another who is here for the long haul. He is playing, but he hasn't needed to play too hard. He is in the WCC, but is easily the least schemy of us. Harrison, right now, is probably the most likely to make it really deep. He will get a mention of how he likes the group, but that is likely it. He didn't care too strongly in Tony vs Jacob, and seemingly isn't using his confessional as well as he could. Everyone likes him - but not enough for P tone. He really didn't do a WHOLE lot.

Joey - CP3 - A coming out party for Joey, too. He might be getting a growth edit. He really was in a rut in the first episode, but has seemingly found his stride. He is playing double agent, and is successfully doing it. People are liking him more. He, like Jenn, gained a LOT from the creation of an alliance, and was added to another. He is the cool kid on the scene that everyone wants to work with. For now, his loyalty is to WCC - but he has so many options.

Kilby MORP4 - MOR because he took a relative backseat this episode. The creation of the alliance doesn't mean a whole lot to him, and probably hurts him more than anything. Generic gamebotty-narration would be expected mostly in this episode. Didn't really progress, just confirmed things. The P exist only because of the idol find - otherwise this would be a fairly bog-standard MOR episode. He is the "head" of the alliance, but is staying in the background a bit.

Witch - Casts a hex to make herself disappear and everyone else hate her.
Regicide - Still a douche.
Redfern - Still adorable.










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This week on... Survivor

Nothing really happened over here. Jacob continues to spiral his own game and not realize it - but this time he is dragging Sarena down with him, hence the negativity. The only other plot thread would be Jayden and Kilby wanting to throw the next challenge, and general anticipation about Kilby's idol. Hence OTT - one characteristic is desire to remove Jacob from the game. Nothing changes a whole lot - it was a day off for Utren.

Rockstar good challenge performance.
Cat guy still has cat
Regicide is still a douche

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Post #10: 15th May 2018 11:58:34 PM 
Can't wait for it to be two real life University Survivor hosts who leave back to back :) :)

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This week was (fireemoji). Our ratings took a huge spike! Fantastic TV all around here on Utren.

The move that has been brewing for weeks finally occurred after an abysmal challenge performance from Utren. Utren got clobbered. Harrison put in an admirable effort while Jayden did very little. This episode would largely focus on the downfall of the messy queen herself -

Sarena -OTTN5. Sarena went into this round safe. Her content up until now has been fairly solid with some winner upside. If this was the CBS show, Sarena is our season's Ali Elliot - the shocker premerge boot who everyone thought had more life in her. Her empire of dirt entirely crumbled as she bit the bullet for the mistakes her and Jacob made together. People saw her as simply too capable. She showed potential while Jacob showed incompetence, and that was enough for her own demise. I could see the argument for CPN here for her - but I think the episode would be more fun with a wacky OTTN boot. This was a straight up, old school blindside and it was excellent and would be milked for every little bit it could.

Jayden - CP4 - What a recovery for Jayden. He was getting antsy and turning people off, but being able to go to tribal completely reinvigorated his game. He would be rebounding big time as he finally gets to pull off his big move. He didn't participate in the challenge, but it didn't matter. He had his crosshairs on Sarena, and he would largely be used as a contrast to how shes playing. He has similar impulses to her - but is able to sit on his hands better than she was.

The other orchestrator of the blindside was Kilby - CPN4 - Kilby was instrumental to the vote switching to Sarena, and the assault from the alliance. The difference and the reason for N is that he largely lied in order to create the result. It was better for everyone to do Sarena - but Kilby had to do work to make sure people bought into it, and he did. That meant lying, and being proud of his lies in confessional.

Jenn had a personal breakdown - and became very close to leaving because of it. But she pulled through. That is the reason for OTTP2. She wasn't super relevant to the undergoings of the episode, but the Wildlife Conservation Coaltion would likely show their tremendous support to her as a human being an alliance member.

Harrison - MOR - Never sure where to put Harrison on the chart. He is in the middle of everything, but is dictating very little. He is everybodys 3rd on their list - and that makes him hard to edgic. A lot of his content in this episode would be him showing off his personality in confessional and in the challenge. This was a fun episode for him. He is strategically relevant, and is in it for the long haul - but his winner upside is dwindling.

Jacob - OTTN3 - Crab in my pants, Patrick Bolton. Dude is wildly overplaying to the point where everyone treats him like a joke. Look for funny moments - dude is TV gold. Shame he isn't Survivor player gold.

Joey - Perhaps a bold take to put him number 1 after a basic MOR episode - but he seems very well situated. No one is coming for him in the alliance, and he has shown more foresight than the Harrison's of the world. He is a very strong player, and makes people feel comfortable.

Andrew - Was kind of there. His next episode will be huge.



This episode was a wild blindside, and would have been super fun to watch. But next episode begins with a firecracker of Kilby's idol being exposed. Watch and find out how it turns out next week.
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Post #12: 30th May 2018 11:56:23 AM 
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Okay so one of my posts got deleted :/ So I just am making a quick catchup for the rounds

Episode 5 mostly would follow Kilby confessing about his idol - and seemingly working. Tears and all that jazz. Jacob vanished, and Andrew did a good job reintegrating himself into the group. The rest of the WCC just accepted Kilby's truth.

Episode 6 was ultimately about finding the idol successfully. Jacob goes full on Invisible, Andrew continues to re-integrate into a stronger position on the tribe. Fireworks are brewing - but for now things in this episode are calm.


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Two major plot lines this week.

First: The fall from grace for Jayden - OTTN5. Jayden got caught playing a messy game this week, and hurt significantly from it. He may be able to recover, but his relationship to Dustin hurt him big time. Dustin ratted on him being a rat - leaving his position on Utren in jeopardy. He ends up winning immunity, but if a 3-3 scenario had happened he could have been in hot water. Kilby and his relationship has been a major storyline of this season, and it showed the most fractures this week.

Speaking of which Kilby - CPN3 - His alliance kept his idol under wraps, but he has been struggling to connect to the other tribe. His goal this week was to discredit Jayden - go to Jayden and discredit Dustin. His confessional was pretty nasty - but he has Jayden and the WCC's best interest at heart, behind his own, of course. His failure to make major inroads with the other side is leaving him with fewer options than he would probably like. He is squarely positioned against Dustin, and has the ammo to use for it.

Alex - MOR3- Alex's debut on my edgic board was VERY hard to place. Alex is seemingly on the bottom of Old-Vecher, but he has quickly made key connections to Jennifer and Kilby. Maybe its an act and hes connecting to more people - but it seems like he is in a very strong position. Could see the argument for CP - but without knowing whether its successful makes it difficult to assign that rating. For me, his lack of agency over the vote and whatnot leaves him at MOR3 - which is a wonderful spot for him currently.

Andrew - MOR3 - The comeback train for Andrew is ALL ABOARD. He has completely reintegrated into Utren, and has key alliances with Jay and Kurtis. He still isn't super valued within Utren, but his stock is rising - and its rising fast. He has everything to gain from Jayden's sketchiness. He was a hard one to score for me - he had a huge feud with Adrienne, but it didn't really matter, and it was resolved. That leaves him MOR for me, this week.

Harrison - OTT3- This one is weird, I know. But I think Harrison's big story this episode was being 100% committed to Utren, WCC and I have Concerns. Harrison is loyal, and that defined him in this episode- ergo, One Note. However, more than that Harrison assembled a bit of a target on his back - people think him and Joey are this unstoppable duo. This isn't true, hence, OTT.

Joey - This episode its the same as Harrison. Joey is just playing better. He has more options, and while he is Utren Strong, he has power if it goes elsewhere, and he is well respected.

The second major story would be wrapped around Jenn - CPP5 - What a breakout. She has been fluctuating back and forth in power in this game, and this episode finally showed she is a legitimate longterm contender. She talks to everyone - Jenn became the prom queen. Everyone loves her - but that has consequence. Everyone, at this point, thinks she was running Utren. Maybe that is true, maybe it isnt-but that threat is going to be real. She has major connections - too many, maybe. Lotta game left to play, but her rise to queendom would absolutely be front and center this week.

Dustin - CPN5 - If this season were SJDS, I think Kilby is Josh and Dustin is Jeremy. These two are bound to go at it, and Jayden will be a key pin in how its decided. I think that is extremely clear. They are probably both after eachother, and with an army backing each of them. Dustin took a major blow at the end of the episode, but most of it would lead a viewer to seriously buy into a version in which Dustin wins. A critical error in the challenge left his army without a general to help them - and thus they suffered. Dustin is a major player in this season - and the edit would make sure that is 100% clear.

Kurtis - CP3 - The only Toneless CP major player this week. Kurtis has found himself a wonderful spot in this game. He has allies on both sides - and no one is seriously wanting him out. He, despite his alpha-ness, is playing a very solid UTR game, and his edit would remind the viewers of that. This is the weird cp-UTR thing you sometimes see. "I'm hanging low, smiling because I will do big things later". CP. He isn't a soldier in a war - he's the batman. He's a vigilante, the mercenary- he doesn't have a side right now, and he doesn't need one.

Michael - Could see the argument for some other rating - but its hard to say. Strategically, Michael is a nonfactor right now. I could see him having some Goat upside - and people like him. This wouldn't be invisible - he would get content, but it wasn't super important to this round.

Jay - Was not sure what to do with him - but settled for CPM3. Jay is clearly good at this game, and had an idol. He had a somewhat big role to play in the episode. He played his idol, told everyone about it - and it was a big topic of discussion. Unfortunately his plan was foiled by Dustin. Probably some NSPV from Jay -> Dustin.

Adrienne - Robbed. This would be a "thank you" edit. An unfortunate demise to a fan favourite premerge character, I imagine. Picture Stephenie Johnston on Ghost Island. Farewell to a player who did nothing wrong but was sleighted by her comrades in the game. Goodbye queen, may you rest. OTTM because, duh.








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