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Episode 4: "I'm Not Smart Enough"
 
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Post #46: 17th May 2018 11:39:08 AM 
Mike is currently arguing in their tribe chat about how Production wasn't around at 4:00 AM and that the other tribe passed the flag wrong, and basically making some snide comments towards production. It's really offputting, especially since Sam was awake at that time, if they didn't pass correctly it would have been caught.

Earlier Kurtis made a comment about how he accidentally downloaded a virus on his roommates computer for this comp, and I commented how it was because he clicked the wrong thing when trying to download flash, and Mike had to chime in with "Someone from production could've told him that if anyone had been around the last 4 hours for our 2nd Endurance comp" which is pretty dumb considering I literally was on call with just Kurtis before the challenge started to make sure Kurtis could get it to work. Not to mention it wasn't an endurance competition - they just took forever.

Sigh, it happens every season, we always have that one person who tries to blame production or find loopholes, but dang.
 
   
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Post #47: 17th May 2018 11:52:26 AM 
Ashlee Smith @ 17/5/2018 10:39

Earlier Kurtis made a comment about how he accidentally downloaded a virus on his roommates computer for this comp


It's 2018. If you don't know how to download something on your computer without getting a virus, that's sad.
 
   
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Post #48: 17th May 2018 11:55:00 AM 
Mike arguing in the tribe chat is making his tribe complain about him:

[11:49:29 AM] Adrianne Haskins: wow mike is the worst

[11:11:30 AM] Alex Wagner: Mike is a bitch
[11:11:42 AM] Alex Wagner: But his stupid comments will make for a good confessional now

 
   
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Post #49: 17th May 2018 2:34:13 PM 
There is idol paranoia like crazy on Vecher, to the point that the Kurtis/Rob/Billy/Adrianne foursome is planning on splitting votes by using their side alliances with Dustin, Mike and Jay respectively to vote Alex or Dustin and telling Alex to vote Billy.

THis is their current plan:

Rob/Adrianne/Jay/Mike vote Alex
Kurtis/Billy vote Dustin

That way if Dustin/Alex play an idol it wouldn't matter.

Jay having Adrianne's trust is going to put him in an amazing position if he's able to get this idol.
 
   
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Post #50: 17th May 2018 3:30:38 PM 
If there was ever a time for Adrianne to make a move to position herself better in the game, it's right now.

If the votes are splitting between Alex/Dustin, she can easily just pull in Jay/Alex/Dustin to take out someone who she doesn't trust...I would say Michael but he is safe this round (from Kurtis' 2nd blinding light). I know recently she has been having better communication with him but I don't see how he benefits her at all in the long run.

Realistically I would love to see Vecher lose a few more times after tonight. Once Alex & Dustin go, who would be next? Adrianne would want to protect Jay, Kurtis would want to protect Michael. I can see a very interesting dynamic forming, especially if the vote does fall on Jay and he plays an idol correctly.

I am also starting to get *very* tired of the Kurtis show. Although he has been doing great, he is definitely starting to act "entitled" about his game. Every personality trait that he explained was the reason why he wanted to get out Anders; he has now gained. I think it's starting to rub off on Rob a bit too. Over time, this just won't develop into a great dynamic come merge.
 
   
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Post #51: 17th May 2018 3:38:30 PM 
Are Harrison/Jenn getting pretty big pulls from the rest of Ultren for pulling out that win last night for going late? Or do they view it as more of a collective tribe effort?
 
   
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Post #52: 17th May 2018 4:40:35 PM 
Just for clarity, neither Kilby nor Jay successfully completed their idols as neither of them even touched the spawn point during the game.
 
   
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Post #53: 17th May 2018 6:17:14 PM 
I'm assuming Alex leaves tonight and Vecher just makes it easy after last tribal
 
   
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Post #54: 17th May 2018 7:13:07 PM 
Quick rant about Alex because I can't with him calling Adrianne a "Grade A bitch" for lying to him. You can be upset with the outcome of a vote, but don't act better than someone who is actually playing the game when it appears you haven't contributed much in challenges or socially. His entire tribe are just "idiots" and "misfits" as well according to him, which like... 1. you signed up for the same game, and 2. if you want things to be done differently its on you to step up and make it happen. If you can't get through to them its because you haven't put in the social work, sorry!

Also I think if Adrianne flips again and goes with Alex-Jay-Dustin she will have a slim chance of going deep in this game. I personally think you need to show more loyalty this early on, especially when (although she has no way of knowing this) Jay has been lying to her, Alex dislikes her, and I don't know that she can completely regain Dustin's trust.
 
   
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Post #55: 17th May 2018 7:23:47 PM 
Man Jay has Adrianne convinced that they're super tight and that he doesn't have the idol. Adrianne believing that could be Alex's saving grace. I really hope it doesn't come at the expense of Rob or Billy. Adrianne is playing really well so far but if she actually does try to come after one of those two then she's going to be seen as a flipper by the whole tribe and its really hard to come back from that.

Patiently waiting for a Jay confessional to hear his thoughts
 
   
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Post #56: 17th May 2018 7:27:20 PM 
jacob's paranoia is slightly...refreshing? it's rarely a good things for players to doubt themselves and although I feel for Jacob and his anxiety and hard feelings, I think if he can pick up on his tribe's take on him during challenges etc. it will actually be helpful for his game. Of course 1 minute later he says he and Sarena are the power players on the tribe so...We're not there yet.
 
   
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Post #57: 17th May 2018 7:28:34 PM 
Agree with the last 2 comments.

Adrianne SHOULD NOT flip on Billy/Rob this round. She really doesn't seem to have a good reason to do it, other than pure paranoia that an idol could get played, or that idol chatter could make people just vote her out?
All thing considered, it's a pretty good split vote plan to get Alex out.

And ya, immediately flipping on the majority alliances after you just voted together to take out a big threat would probably not be great. Adrianne will get tagged with that flipper label, and that's just TOUGH to come back from (See: Nick in Conquest 8).
 
   
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Post #58: 17th May 2018 7:29:28 PM 
Michael Vicario @ 17/5/2018 18:23
Man Jay has Adrianne convinced that they're super tight and that he doesn't have the idol. Adrianne believing that could be Alex's saving grace. I really hope it doesn't come at the expense of Rob or Billy. Adrianne is playing really well so far but if she actually does try to come after one of those two then she's going to be seen as a flipper by the whole tribe and its really hard to come back from that.

Patiently waiting for a Jay confessional to hear his thoughts


Right. Jay completely has Adrianne fooled. If him/Adrienne go all in on taking out Rob/Billy this round, I think that ends Adrianne’s long-term game and makes Jay the most powerful person on Vecher.
 
   
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Post #59: 17th May 2018 7:32:04 PM 
So it looks like we’re gojng to be seeing a rob or billy vote tonight.
 
   
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Post #60: 17th May 2018 7:32:53 PM 
I think the flip on rob would be good for Adrianne since he’s the closest to both Kurtis and Billy. Getting rid of Billy doesn’t help her game.
 
   
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