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Fabio Birza
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| Post #1: 21st Jun 2015 8:15 PM | |
WILL BE COMING TOMORROW! Sorry I'm on vaca and realize that votes are due soon, time zones and wifi are weird and hard for me. I for some idiotic reason (Instagram) chose to use my iPhone as my device to access the Disney ships wifi and I had to use my Dad's laptop to type my question on Notes and then real quick copy and paste to read however, after I wrote out the entire thing when I tried to log in... BOOM! His security snd password went up!!! SO! He is long asleep and we have an early excursion. It's 2:11 (AM) and we have an early excursion! I'll post it RIGHT before I leave which is around 9:30- 3:30 your East Coast time.
Because I'm away and I know votes are due Wednesday I just wanted to give you a heads up on this all to be prepared tomorrow if you could answer as fast as possible. All I'm gonna do is copy and paste in the AM. (I apologize in advance to those who felt rushed) and remind everyone that give your heart out for these questions (not mine but everyone's)
Very excited to get some answers and can't wait to see who is crowned. Like I said posting tomorrow very early so be prepared.
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Fabio Birza
| Reputation: 2 | Group: | Jury | Posts: | 440 |
| Post #2: 22nd Jun 2015 2:16 AM | |
Hey yaaaaa, hey yaaaa. (Outkast) (or Obediah Parker, I recommend both) Congrats to you Final 3, despite what any perceptions of what people think you are, you did something amazing and that was make it to the end of not only an amazing game but one of my favorite most competitive games that I’ve ever had the honor of playing.
Hosts, you did an amazing jobs, images, buffs, challenges, the works; you made this feel like such an important game and honestly I felt so honored to be apart of the very first season, despite getting 8th place, I can hold my head high and say this was DEFINITELY one of my all time favorite games and I know that if I was in the final 3 I would say this was the best game I’ve ever played. And I’m anxious to see who will be the OG winner of 39 days in MONGOLIA!!!
So, so, so I want to start off with- that despite what you may think and what you may read is that not only mine but I believe that ALL of you have the opportunity to sway the jury in more ways than others based on your answers at this Final Tribal Council and ultimately win!
I wanted to chime in late because I’m on a Disney Cruise in Norway and the time zones are all fucked up and I bought like $90 bucks worth of data for this reason and IF I was in the FTC I would’ve been cashing out all the rubber band banks in my pocket as fast as I can to claim this title.
So let’s begin; Its fucking 12:30 and by the time I post it God knows when, I’ve been having a great time dancing the night away. There’s so many hot girls and soooo many got blondes, Denmark/Norway is loaded with them’ (None beat Hali Ford though) Sooooo (Or Misty)
Brett/Chelsea/Fran, you guys did amazing and played such different and unique games cause you guys were really very spread out. Reading what you’ve written so far is nice to hear and also discouraging at times. I’ll do this alphabetically as both a joke and to make this as fair as possible;
Brett!!!! My man, your SECOND game, but I don’t wanna call you out on that too much - Twisted doesn’t count and I’ll cut you slack for that. This is the most honest I’ll be cause I’m a little tipsy. (You can call me Ciera tonight) I want to commend you. On a personal level I was rooting for you big time and still am, I hope you hit it home with these questions. Dude I was looking for that “..” after I was voted out, which was a cue to let me know from the jury that Brett still had intentions of working with Jaruud and avenge me against Ciera/Fran! I was so happy to see that at F7, for those of you who do not know, the last thing I ever said to the Jaruud 4, (other than my ghostly presence of sunglasses) was that I told them to keep Brett tight, I KNEW he was the key to my own success but also theirs; sadly, they were IDIOTS! No offense Jaruud, ily more than any other tribe in Survivor or Survivor ORG History but F7 was your round just as much as F8. Brett, you were more than loyal to me, even if I was feeding you BS or not, (I wasn’t) I trusted you and you MADE me trust you.
I think you’re taking a little more credit about Chase’s vote; that was a partnership with Tyler but I honestly believe that you and Ty didn’t converse about swapping info and sharing it with me, I think you both came to me individually about Chase’s spontaneousness (looked long for the right word) and his rogue- qualities, that made me second guess his partnership. You and Ty both had a huge hand with changing my own mind about Chase but ultimately it was Matty and I that decided it was risky to align with someone that was clearly a loose cannon. However, if Chase DID stay, you would most definitely be out and for that reason, that round WAS your most pivotal round.
I’m going to be as honest as possible; I think you’re getting heat on in the jury. They say you have poor jury management or something and that you’re a little bit of a goat however, despite the FTC answers I think you navigated perfectly. You were OBVIOUSLY aligned with Chelsea and EVERYONE knew it. You guys were a pair RIGHT after Tyler left and it was a race to you and Chelsea.
What everyone forgets is that the option was you or Misty. You were more important to Jaruud and moving forward to so many people and if you were voted out, we could not tame Chelsea’s vote quite as much. I trusted you entirely from Ty’s vote forward. You were Jaruud’s success and I think people forget that you played the middle more than anyone, whether or not that was Chelsea’ plan too, for me. (I felt like the link to Jaruud + Blue) and it was because of you. You came in and gave me and Hali the right information about Misty and Matt (Ciera/Fran) at all the right times.
Brett, you weren’t anyone to notice in the game but when I sit back I see someone who was loyal, who was social, did his part in the challenges and ultimately had the perfect position to weasel his way to the top. I would definitely consider you a rat, I called you that when I was voted out but dude, You fucking rocked! You knew EXACTLY what to say to scare people, you knew EXACTLY what to say to make people feel comfortable and you would tell others one thing and tell others another. (Even had me thinking about voting out my #1 squeeze Hali)You sat on the line and waited to see how it would help you advance.
I want you to #1 stick your held high because I think whether it be your first (or second ;-) ) game, you tore it up. You didn’t need to win challenges because you weren’t too threatening but at the same time you were.
You were honest to your allies and seemed like a weasel to others; Why would you say they considered you a weasel if you so clearly had defined allies?
You were all in on voting out Ciera at F7, do you think it was a dumb move for Jaruud to target you or Chelsea? They could have easily voted her out and then went for you/Chelsea next round?
Do you regret taking Hali out over Fran at F6? Personally, everyone thought Hali lacked social skills and while everyone thought Fran was a gamebot it made more sense “threat wise” to take Fran out. She made it evident that she was playing a Mike-based-game WITH Ciera after I left and I think it was obvious to see Chonos all rallying to Fran’s cause at the end of the game. Whereas Hali would have done an AMAZING job but would’ve gotten much more heat for her game (Note shake it off by Taylor Swift at a TC)
Brett, I really hope you sell it and sell your social game. You were the all around characteristics of good winners, not too big of a threat but an obvious player, an obvious instigator and you were never calling out names but you were subconsciously putting names in our own heads without us realizing it based on what information you let out. I hope everyone doesn’t rush to vote and really considers voting you, please elaborate on what I’ve asked, and what you think it meant to your game play when taking out Misty/Matt. And did my demise ultimately result in your own success? (I believe it did but I consider us to be buds so I’d like your answer)
Chelsea!!!!!! You all ready said it, we BARELY talked but I did trust you for two reasons, scratch that two people BRETT and JK. They were my glue to you but I knew that Brett had my back and I knew JK had my back so in turn, I did trust you. Most of our convos were really hard, it was like we were trying to have fun but it wasn’t working and trust me I REALLY REALLY was trying but everything was a little bit of a lull in the convo, and I tried that so many times, was it HONESTLY because you knew that I didn’t have you in my end game or was it because you didn’t trust me or want to give me the time of day? I honestly do think it was a poor choice. I think we could have been friends but you were really hard to talk to and more people than Matt and I felt that way. Why?? Misty- to me (before she left) and JK/Brett were the only reasons why I think you stayed in this game at F10 and then at F8.
#2) Did you ever consider voting me out, when where and why would it benefit you? (These numbers aren’t accurate at all so please just read between the lines for the questions I’m asking.)
#3) The Jaruud 4 was COMPLETELY ready to vote you out at Final 8, I had my parchment ready. Blindside you, waste a potential idol should Ciera play it but ultimately we didn’t know if you would be voting for someone from Jaruud and lying to us. The final decision was to not be villains and vote Ciera with you and Brett, ultimately leading to my demise and despite me leaving, I’m proud to have gone out with an idol and go down as more of a hero than a villain (which looking at Chase/Ty/Misty/Matt [and Woo] I definitely felt like a hero) Did you have any knowledge of this at all? Because until F7, I think you were oblivious about Jaruud wanting you gone. Perhaps kudos to you on that? You were enough of a threat to target? But obviously if it weren’t for that decision, you’d be gone.
Did you enjoy your time in this game? It feels like you got bored towards the end.
FRANQUESQUA!!!!!!!: Challenge BEAST. When you look at every thread after this you’re going to think, wow, Fabio didn’t like me, but it’s because at the beginning it felt like you were getting handed the win, but that’s not the case. If we were on the show, I don’t think people would have been rooting for you even though of your immunity run. I think you would’ve been like Terry in panama and if you would’ve lost Danielle would’ve been like, “Grow up Terry!” However, 16 hours is amazing and it proves not how big of a threat you are cause anyone could go that long but it showed us how much you wanted this win.
I do not commend games based on immunity wins (Despite the last challenge, that was awesome) I find immunity winning games boring, Mike was an obvious hero for siding with Shirin towards the end, whereas when I saw things heading your way at the end of my vote, and I knew you didn’t like me personally but I was hurt, cause the time we did talk I enjoyed it and you came off as super super arrogant after I left. BRAGGING about how you felt alone and how this was the only way to win. I commend you a thousand times for your competition wins but you did NOT Survive in this game socially. Your proudest and only real achievement in this game other than your immunity wins should be when Brett/Chelsea decided to vote Hali over you, that was their mistake though and not yours. (along with my demise- but I completely blame myself/Jaruud/Ciera for my demise)
Looking back at questions it looks like you ranked me #7 for strategy. I realize why you’d do that on a personal level but I took that harsh too. You must not expect my vote at all. You came out saying I was the glue to Jaruud and Oranor and I think that just by saying that I’m in a dumb show called Joey (who is my favorite member of friends beeteedubs) is dumb if I was such a pivotal player to get rid of that round at F8 which you made CLEAR is how you felt.
Why was I SO insignificant as #7 on a strategic scale if I was such an important target to get out at that time? Cause I just think that was a dumb answer if that’s truly truly how you feel. Was it personal or was it strategic to get me out? I don’t know which you would define it as cause either way you seem to brush it over your shoulder when OBVIOUSLY that was the one shot of redemption you had.
You’ve been called a gamebot, I never talked game to you but I did talk GoT with you and I loved our talk. Do you believe you were a gamebot? Did you have fun? Everything seemed very calculated before posting at anytime, and I think that’s why you were seen as a gamebot.
Theres no way in shape or form that I think you would be here without idols and challenges. Your social game was super flawed, how would you have navigated without immunity? Would you have not been so “OOOOH YEAH!! BACK AGAINST THE WALL!!” Or would you have tried to fit in more?
However, I do believe that you were forced into that position and despite coming off as what I believd to be arrogant, you were able to rally jury members to your cause because of how out there you, whereas it felt personal towards me. I completely acknowledge and commend you for your out there and in it to win it, ALL IN OR NOTHING attitude, because whether or not I was rooting for you, it was so much fun to watch. I knew that at F4 it was you or JK but I desperately wanted to see your social game come out at the later stages opposed to immunity. I think if that were the case you would hands down get a unanimous sweep, but you can’t blame yourself in trying your hardest in every challenge. It takes incredible patience and a drive, especially with F4, and at F8, Hali and I must be kicking ourselves in the ass every damn night about counting just a few extra numbers ;-)
Despite all this negativity I seem to be sending your way, I do appreciate your performance and your FTC answers so far. I realize that you’re answering certain questions for certain people, it’s soooo late here and I’m tired and the booze are wearing off the more and more I go. I think you and I would really get along but I think we both knew we were at completely opposite ends of the spectrum and am terribly, terribly sorry if I seem aggressive to not just you but Hali/Brett or anyone. I played hard and so did you, and I’m passionate about crowning this winner.
I wanted to ask all 3 of you a question, a generic one but I can’t really think of a good one. I think you all played amazing games. Brett/Chelsea, you guys were a pair from the get go at merge and despite whether or not people consider you goats or not you did amazing cause the odds were forever in your favor and you ended up here together. I applaud you, we had soooo many times to take either of you out but we didn’t because you deflected it so perfectly. Fran, you were a challenge beast and made us look to other sources, your allies for vote offs.
OOOOH, real quick; Chelsea/Brett! Do you REGRET voting Matt over Fran? The ONLY reason Jaruud voted Matt that round was to gain the trust of you two, which the smarter move was clearly Fran, however, like Fran said, the reason she supposedly want me (like i said answers don’t make sense) was because she saw Hali as a bigger threat. Was keeping Fran in strategic or was it personal because Chelsea was sincerely offended because of Matt’s choices?
I honestly guess that other than these few questions and opinion on my long ass rant that my vote will depend on these answers but the answers of the other questions. You all did amazing, strategic, social, challenge, etc, whatever it is that got you here, you came to the top of a very competitive game and season and whoever wins will deserve the title as OG winner of 39 days.
I’d once again like to thank the hosts and players and invite everyone; I all ready feel so personally close with Misty and JK personally and am dying to get even more personal with everyone else, alias or not. Please message me, we’re the OG cast and I’ve had SUCH a blast with you all and can’t wait to continue this on the reunion. (Even if I miss out a little for VACA) have fun all! And good luck one last time Final 3.
The votes are in the air, and you decide where they fall, So take it home!
:Insert Fabio/Achilles gif:
Fabio Out *Drops Mic and Jury goes fuckin’ nutz* Fabio ‘fucking’ Birza knocks it outta the park per usual. Great game guys! Love yaz! B) B) B) B) (traditional Fabio shades) | |
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Fabio Birza
| Reputation: 2 | Group: | Jury | Posts: | 440 |
| Post #3: 22nd Jun 2015 2:17 AM | |
so fuckin' long..... thanks again, and please don't take anything too harshly. Best hosts, best cast, best season, best game ever! | |
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Francesqua
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| Post #4: 22nd Jun 2015 3:01 AM | |
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Looking back at questions it looks like you ranked me #7 for strategy. I realize why you’d do that on a personal level but I took that harsh too. You must not expect my vote at all. You came out saying I was the glue to Jaruud and Oranor and I think that just by saying that I’m in a dumb show called Joey (who is my favorite member of friends beeteedubs) is dumb if I was such a pivotal player to get rid of that round at F8 which you made CLEAR is how you felt.
Why was I SO insignificant as #7 on a strategic scale if I was such an important target to get out at that time? Cause I just think that was a dumb answer if that’s truly truly how you feel. Was it personal or was it strategic to get me out? I don’t know which you would define it as cause either way you seem to brush it over your shoulder when OBVIOUSLY that was the one shot of redemption you had. |
I will answer the rest of it first thing tomorrow. But I think you misinterpreted either my answer or Matt B's question. Well either you did or I did LOL.
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Everyone - Answer this, because the other less bias jurors will read these and appreciate them! I want you to rank the jury in 2 ways. I want you to rank them on a personal level (who you liked/appreciated the most), and on a strategic level (who you were affiliated with most in the game). I also want you all to compare each juror to a television show - Friends, Game of Thrones, etc. No long descriptions necessary, just little tidbits/a few sentences each. However, for the people ranked near the top of your "personal" ranking, I would love some quotes or instances of friendship to show our social game. |
I ranked the jury based on MY strategic and personal affiliations with them. In that vein, I thought it was very clear you would be on the bottom since we barely talked and it was nearly never about the game. I request you to read my answer to Hali's question (when I post it, JESUS that one is taking a loooooong time :P )
And again I stated that my interpretation of Matt B's question would be how I feel about the shows. I liked Joey. Both on Friends and on Joey. I didn't state at any point you were dumb like he was portrayed to be. Rather I stated your ability and desire to make friends with everyone in the game and try to make sure everyone was having fun as being a characteristic you shared most with Joey. SPECIFICALLY the Joey from "Joey". I am sorry for the confusion there and I hope this clears at least that part up.
I will do the rest later but I felt like addressing these immediately because your interpretation of it was absolutely not my intention.
Thanks for the questions Fabio.
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Brett Clouser
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| Post #5: 22nd Jun 2015 3:13 AM | |
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Looking back at questions it looks like you ranked me #7 for strategy. I realize why you’d do that on a personal level but I took that harsh too. You must not expect my vote at all. You came out saying I was the glue to Jaruud and Oranor and I think that just by saying that I’m in a dumb show called Joey (who is my favorite member of friends beeteedubs) is dumb if I was such a pivotal player to get rid of that round at F8 which you made CLEAR is how you felt.
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Everyone - Answer this, because the other less bias jurors will read these and appreciate them! I want you to rank the jury in 2 ways. I want you to rank them on a personal level (who you liked/appreciated the most), and on a strategic level (who you were affiliated with most in the game). I also want you all to compare each juror to a television show - Friends, Game of Thrones, etc. No long descriptions necessary, just little tidbits/a few sentences each. However, for the people ranked near the top of your "personal" ranking, I would love some quotes or instances of friendship to show our social game. |
I request you to read my answer to Hali's question (when I post it, JESUS that one is taking a loooooong time :P )
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No joke though. Hali you are intense! And Fran you got it easy. Chelsea and I have an entire extra paragraph to write ;p | |
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Fabio Birza
| Reputation: 2 | Group: | Jury | Posts: | 440 |
| Post #6: 22nd Jun 2015 9:15 AM | |
Yes, Fran, I think I did CLEARLY misinterpret the question! Ask the hosts, I must have a reading comprehension problem Hahahah, I'm happy you cleared that up. It was a little confusing and definitely set me back- not in a cocky way, but just seemed contradictory! Thanks, I look forward to all the answers :) | |
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Hali Ford
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| Post #7: 22nd Jun 2015 11:10 AM | |
Oh my goodness, this NOVEL | |
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Fabio Birza
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| Post #8: 22nd Jun 2015 3:21 PM | |
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Oh my goodness, this NOVEL |
Was it too much? | |
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Francesqua
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| Post #9: 22nd Jun 2015 4:00 PM | |
Hi again Fabio. If you don't mind I'd like to offer rebuttals to a few of you comments along with answers to the questions you have asked.
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I do not commend games based on immunity wins (Despite the last challenge, that was awesome) I find immunity winning games boring, Mike was an obvious hero for siding with Shirin towards the end, whereas when I saw things heading your way at the end of my vote, and I knew you didn’t like me personally but I was hurt, cause the time we did talk I enjoyed it and you came off as super super arrogant after I left. BRAGGING about how you felt alone and how this was the only way to win. ... | I am actually a little confused by this part. At no point do I remember saying I was alone. I always had at least one true ally all the way till Final 5. And I did what I could to fight for both myself and my allies.
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I commend you a thousand times for your competition wins but you did NOT Survive in this game socially. Your proudest and only real achievement in this game other than your immunity wins should be when Brett/Chelsea decided to vote Hali over you, that was their mistake though and not yours. (along with my demise- but I completely blame myself/Jaruud/Ciera for my demise) | I am going to have to disagree with you if you are giving 100% credit of Hali being voted out to Brett and Chelsea. If you look at the votes in that tribal, Brett and Chelsea were no longer the middle men when they absolutely still should have been. Hali and John voted Chelsea. Chelsea/Brett voted Hali. Ciera and I were the deciding votes. We successfully capitalized on all the chaos that the Final 7 vote had caused. Hali even admitted in her question that she tried to get me voted out by approaching Chelsea and Brett. But it was my stronger bond with Chelsea, Hali's threat status being way bigger than mine even after my 2 immunity wins and the fact that Ciera and I were able to play Hali, John against Chelsea/Brett that got both of us through that round.
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You’ve been called a gamebot, I never talked game to you but I did talk GoT with you and I loved our talk. Do you believe you were a gamebot? Did you have fun? Everything seemed very calculated before posting at anytime, and I think that’s why you were seen as a gamebot. | I loved our talk about GOT. But, and no offense to you personally on this one, that was an episode for the ages. And talking about that with any true GOT fan was always going to be wonderful and exciting conversation. In every other conversation between us, there was a palpable awkwardness and it felt forced. I have been called a gamebot many times before. I think it stems from the fact that I tend to analyze and choose my words carefully while chatting instead of being loose and a little carefree. That is a result of me being a paranoid player and always being worried that my words will get misinterpreted. Ironically enough, that is what ends up happening since people think I am being fake when I am only just really being cautious and a little scared. Despite what everyone thinks, I had a blast. With regards to everything in the game. I enjoyed getting to know y'all. I enjoyed the fierce competition. There was nothing calculated about my friendships with Chase, Misty, Matt B and Ciera. There was nothing calculated about my bond with Chelsea. There was nothing calculated when I talked with Hali about cheesecakes or the time when I was so frustrated that my laundromat dryers keep fucking up and my clothes took 4 hours to dry -_- or the time when I talked with JK about Bo and about enjoying fun activities in the water. Those were me just being friendly and chatting about everyday stuff and/or things I had in common with the other players. And I enjoyed those conversations just as much as I enjoyed other facets of the game. But when it comes to the game, I am passionate about it so I can come on too strong as and when talks shift to discussing strategies, voting plans, alliances and all that good stuff. If that makes it hard to believe that my casual talks were anything but genuine then so be it. I enjoy both aspects of the game equally and never sacrifice one for the other.
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Theres no way in shape or form that I think you would be here without idols and challenges. Your social game was super flawed, how would you have navigated without immunity? Would you have not been so “OOOOH YEAH!! BACK AGAINST THE WALL!!” Or would you have tried to fit in more? | There is no denying the fact that after the way things went at F10, F9 I would not be here without immunity wins. And as much as I would like to hope that the bonds I did create with Chelsea and to a lesser extent with Hali and JK, without immunity wins, a better social game would not have got me to the end. It could have bought me an extra round or two at best. But there are somethings that no one knows that I planned but never went through with because I didn't need to. Even after winning immunity in the previous round, I entered every round thinking I need to do something in the event that I don't win immunity this time. A small instance of this is a little speech I wrote up to use at the F7 tribal council. Granted the speech was written after I won immunity but the idea and the beginning of the execution of this idea was well before I did the IC. Here it is. Sorry if this is getting too long LOL.
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So this is something I thought up in my sleep. Yes I now dream about this game. I need help.
Yes I needed immunity JP but more than that I REALLY wanted to go to exile again. The benefit about being an outcast and not having people to talk to you is that I have time. Lots and lots of time. And I made use of that time to think. I have had this conversation in the game before but y'all hosts seem to be big fans of Cagayan and seem to have modeled the season a bit like the events of Cagayan. Which made me want to look around the camp and try my luck at finding something that could help me in the game. Lo and behold ...
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If y'all want proof this is real, go check out the merge feast post and click on the little smiley before the pic of all the booze. |
Its a start JP. It reduces the chances of me and Cierabae finding a prize from 1 in 9 to 1 in 8. But of course its better than that. Because so many players have come before us, the pool of possibilities is already low. And to have even a flicker of a light of hope in complete darkness is worth a lot to people clinging on to the last shreds of desperation. We used what we know from previous trips and this new piece of information. AND THE LAWD SMILED UPON US :D :D :D
Now I could very well be bluffing JP. And I could very well be telling the truth. Then comes the question of whether I am really going to play this idol on Ciera or will I save it for myself. These are questions that I know the answer to. And Ciera knows. But do these others know? Do they really know for sure what we will do?? We'll find out. But until then here is some food for thought.
Last time when me and Ciera did this, we had no problems in agreeing on who to vote for. No issues whatsoever. This time we have a bit of a ... domestic you could say. I want to vote for Hali girl. She is awesome. She is the hero. But she just doesn't want to work with me :\ Ciera disagrees though. She wants to vote against Chelsea. Now we are still not on the same page. But we are here all day and if anyone feels like helping us out with our little tiff, we'd really appreciate it. Either way JP, this is gonna be a fun day, a fun tribal and a fun fun fun finish to the game :)
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What I want to emphasize here is that this thought of me being a one-dimensional challenge whoring robot who didn't do anything else is patently false. And I hope that comes across in this answer. I didn't go through with this speech because it was clear I didn't need to. Ciera and I were able to pit Hali and John against Brett and Chelsea before tribal and all the confusion regarding the voting rules happened. And I wasn't going to vote against Hali when I knew I didn't need to.
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However, I do believe that you were forced into that position and despite coming off as what I believd to be arrogant, you were able to rally jury members to your cause because of how out there you, whereas it felt personal towards me. I completely acknowledge and commend you for your out there and in it to win it, ALL IN OR NOTHING attitude, because whether or not I was rooting for you, it was so much fun to watch. I knew that at F4 it was you or JK but I desperately wanted to see your social game come out at the later stages opposed to immunity. I think if that were the case you would hands down get a unanimous sweep, but you can’t blame yourself in trying your hardest in every challenge. It takes incredible patience and a drive, especially with F4, and at F8, Hali and I must be kicking ourselves in the ass every damn night about counting just a few extra numbers ;-)
| I agree 100% that I was arrogant the round you left. Yes it was personal. I felt a gush of emotions after finally being able to avenge Misty in this game, something that I thought I would not be able to accomplish after having seen what happened last round. My emotions got the better of me and I couldn't help myself.
As for letting my social game come out, I had already lived through being lied to twice by both Chelsea and Brett that they would side with me. I am not sure whether people know but after knowing I had gone for a fairly long while (Brett knew I had gone for at least 12 hours; Chelsea may have known), Brett came to me and said the other two are coming after me and he would tie the vote for me if I lost. Chelsea had promised me this the previous day. That in my eyes is the essence of the games that Brett and, to slightly lesser extent, Chelsea played. Find out who they believe is going to be in the deciding seat, promise them the world to ensure their own asses are saved, and then confer and decide what they think is best for their own games based on who is safe and who is vulnerable. It is a brilliant strategy if it is an F2 and the two of them end up in that F2 together. But that is not the case here. I didn't for one second believe Brett. Chelsea has been my blind spot for this entire game and I think with my heart when it comes to her. But even if she did tell me this around the time I had only just started doing the challenge, it in no way wanted to make me stop and rely on her. I wanted my place here in this FTC to be based on my own efforts, my own decisions and by my own choice.
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Despite all this negativity I seem to be sending your way, I do appreciate your performance and your FTC answers so far. I realize that you’re answering certain questions for certain people, it’s soooo late here and I’m tired and the booze are wearing off the more and more I go. I think you and I would really get along but I think we both knew we were at completely opposite ends of the spectrum and am terribly, terribly sorry if I seem aggressive to not just you but Hali/Brett or anyone. I played hard and so did you, and I’m passionate about crowning this winner. | Despite what you think, I am not ignoring you as a juror. And I won't ignore Matty as a juror. I think this part may have been when you thought I shafted you on the strategic jury ranking answer. I hope that is the case. We were never going to be able to earnestly work together in this game based on the way things shook out from the very beginning. But I hope I have shown in my answers so far that I respect you, and indeed, was afraid of you as a player in this game and a force to be reckoned with. My personal animosity was a result of my love for Misty and you happened to be the guy I directed it towards. It was strictly within the confines of this game. I admire your passion for the game and your willingness to not only call me out for when you thought I was being unfair to you, but to give me a chance to explain myself. I hope that I have shown the same passion in my answers. I have had a fantastic time answering all these questions so far. I hope the jury has had just as much fun reading them.
Thanks again for the questions and comments Fabio. Please let me know if you need anything more. | |
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Fabio Birza
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| Post #10: 22nd Jun 2015 5:59 PM | |
Thank you Fran and fantastic answer!
As for the giving Brett/Chelsea credit vote I wasn't giving them credit at all. I was saying that thy made a huge mistake and it completely conpletely benefited you over them. I was commending you 100% for persuading them to make the move. So that part was misunderstood. Like I said, their mistake and your benefit!
Thank you very much Fran, cleared a lot of air that I think we can both agree on. I came at you hard and am happy with your rebuttals and your honesty. I was just as scared of you and respect your gameplay tremendously.
Brett and Chelsea... Whenever you're ready! | |
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Chelsea
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| Post #11: 22nd Jun 2015 7:02 PM | |
Hey Fabio.
Well to answer your question about not talking to you. I knew no game could be talked between you that wouldn't have got back to at least someone. I mean honestly, if I had to came to you to take out a Jaruud, you would have told them. So honestly there was no game to be talked about with you. As bad as it sounds, I focused on making the people I knew would work with me like me a lot. I know it probably means I won't win, but at the time I made the decision to try to make it to the end.
This isn't an excuse, but honestly, not having a chance to speak to you until the final 11 made it really hard. And knowing you were with the Jaruud 4, so like I knew you would not want to work with me. Even at one point I told Brett to ask you about taking out one of the Jaruud 4, I think it was Hali and you said it was too soon. So I knew you trusted them way more than me. And I think people wanting to keep me in the game at both final 10 and 8 says something about how much I made people feel they could trust me. John and Brett felt like I wasn't coming after them, so they wanted to keep me, and if you they didn't trust me, I would have went instead of you the round you left.
Yes I wanted you out, at final 10, I talked to Fran about how you were the most liked person in the cast, she of course said Misty would not vote for you. So I didn't push for it. And then the round you left, I wanted to vote Hali out, then you, and I told Fran that. Fran being impatient though, did not want to wait. So her and Ciera took you out. I personally felt like Hali was a bigger threat, so if I had it my way, you would have been gone the round after.
I knew that I was potentially going home, that is why that round I tried to get Hali out, but failed because Ciera went and told her everything, and ruined it for me. So that round me and Brett did try to make a move, but because Ciera ran straight to Hali and told her, I not only lost trust in her, but I had no other choice than to vote for Ciera, and try to stay loyal. But I knew Hali knew about me wanting her out. I think John did not want to vote me that round, because I formed a friendship with him prior to that.
I don't know where people are getting that I was bored in this game.. I had a blast in this game, it was amazing. Yes I was busy towards the end, that does not mean I was bored. I was setting up a new org, but I was not bored. I felt comfortable with the friendships I built with John, Fran,and Brett that they were not going to turn on me, but I never got bored.
I do not regret voting out Matt. He was never going to work with me personally. I knew Fran was not going to go against me, keeping her ensured my safety. I do not think I would have made it this far with Matt still in the game. It was both personal and strategic, not going to lie. I still think his comments were rude, regardless of the reason he uses to say they are not, whether he meant it or not. But I trusted Fran a whole lot more. | |
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Fabio Birza
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| Post #12: 23rd Jun 2015 2:37 AM | |
Thanks Chelsea, just waiting on you Brett! | |
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Brett Clouser
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| Post #13: 23rd Jun 2015 2:54 AM | |
I'll try to get to you as soon as I can, but I'm trying to do people who have been waiting awhile first. | |
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Brett Clouser
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| Post #14: 24th Jun 2015 6:31 AM | |
Hey Fabio! Long time no see sadly.
Lmao, counting Twisted as part of my game history is like counting the penny you found on the ground as part of your paycheck. It’s basically nonexistent. Anyways, onwards! Of course I milked the Chase vote and of course Tyler was my best man helping to ensure the plan went down accordingly. I know a lot of people are always so concerned about players making a big move so I just put that out there and used it as much as I could in my opening statement so I didn’t have to worry about it as much in the questions. I personally think I made a lot of smaller moves that all added up to be a big move and by now, from reading my answers to questions, people should be able to see the under-the-radar game I played and base their vote on that. By the way, spontaneousness is unfortunately not a word :p
That’s what makes it even more exciting though! Fran is getting a free ride while I get to work hard for these votes and show that I am no slacker. I think people don’t realize how many votes I actually got in this game. I don’t even know how many I got because it was a lot. The fact that I’m still sitting here even after I got votes at 4 separate tribal councils proves that I am a fighter. Plus, Chelsea obviously had bonds with both Fran and Misty so if I had left that round instead of Misty, Chelsea probably would’ve flipped on the Jaruuds so GOOD choice Jaruud!
I think I prefer weasel honestly. It has a nice ring to it. Why do some people consider me a weasel even though I had defined allies? Well, I think this all goes back to my middleman position. On paper, I was definitely like another loyal member of the Jaruuds simply because I voted with them most of the time. However, in reality, I was definitely playing the middle and because I let the other alliance try to persuade me to vote with them yet never really ended up doing it until later in the game, they started to think I was just messing with them. They began to think I was just filtering all their pleas out the window like the weasel I apparently am when I actually really was considering voting with them on more than a couple occasions. I love you Jaruuds, but the Chonos got some parties going on over there too and I wanted in on some of that action. I heard Fran and Ciera’s trips to exile were pretty eventful and how could I miss out on that?
I was definitely all in on voting Ciera at F7 because of the reasons I said in both Hali & Ciera’s respective questions and because it was in memory of you Fabio! Like how could you not? I don’t see how I’m the weasel here when Chelsea and I got targeted by our own allies after we were trying to avenge our fallen comrade. It was definitely not the smartest move for Jaruud because it gave me ammo to flip on them and that’s ultimately what led to their demise, although I’m sure Ciera was more than overjoyed at the outcome. They definitely could have got her out and then me/Chelsea in the next round, but like I said in Hali’s question, it’s not a matter of if to flip; it’s a matter of WHEN to flip and they flipped a round too early in my opinion. However, you don’t see me arguing because it helped me tremendously in the long run. So GOOD choice again Jaruud
Do I regret taking Hali out instead of Fran? Honestly, I hate being wishy-washy in these kinds of situations, but yes and no; more so no just so I’m not as wishy-washy. Yes, because Fran obviously has her Chonos people liking every comment she makes and are more than likely going to vote for her at the end. No though, because TO ME, Hali was by far the bigger threat to my game compared to Fran. If you think about it, Fran will probably get her Chonos votes and most of us knew that coming into the FTC, but she definitely has to work for these Jaruud votes because she didn’t connect with y’all on the same level she did with Chonos. If you look at me in this situation, I was much closer to Jaruud than Fran was and so I actually have a good chance at getting many of the Jaruud votes (and Tyler I didn’t forget about you bro). Now reverse the situation and say Fran was gone at F6 and Hali stayed. I think it would have been very possible for Hali to make the FTC. This is MUCH worse for my game. Say the FTC consisted of me, Chelsea, and Hali. Hali would have definitely had a much better shot at getting the Jaruud votes than Fran does simply because she was aligned with you guys the whole game. In my case, this takes away all the votes that I would have had a lot easier if I was up against Fran. So then you have to look to the Chonos votes. Who do you think the Chonos would vote for? Misty and Ciera were both with Hali on NuJaruud, Matt felt personally disrespected by me, and Fran has said on multiple occasions that she totally respects the game that Hali played. Case and point. Hali would have stolen all the Jaruud votes I would have if I was up against Fran and she would have gotten all the Chonos votes resulting in a big win for Hali. Overall, for MY game, Hali was by far the bigger threat because at the FTC, Hali would have dominated against me much more than Fran. So to answer your question, I’m going to have to say no because I think against Fran, I have a chance whereas against Hali, I didn’t. Hali would have swept the Chonos votes against me and she had bigger bonds with more of the Jaruuds than I did.
I think I already got most of the Misty/Matt concerns answered throughout the various questions. Basically, besides all the reasons I have already listed in the other juror’s questions, taking out Misty and Matt really did prove my loyalty to you Fabio and the Jaruuds as a whole. You had proved your loyalty to me on more than one occasion and it was honestly a way of repaying you while at the same time accomplishing all the other things I have stated about the Misty/Matt votes. Your demise definitely led to my own success. I don’t know how many people know it and I have no idea how true this was, but you were saying you wanted a Final 3 with me, you, and Hali in it. Had that actually occurred, I would have been the ultimate goat in that situation and there was next to no way I was winning that. Had you not left the game in the fashion you did, I think it would have come to a point where I would know I had to vote you out because you were a tremendous threat, but it would have been emotionally taxing. Otherwise if I didn’t get you first, there would probably have come a time where your fellow Jaruud members wanted me gone so it could be like an all-Jaruud Final 4 or something. No matter the case, if you hadn’t left the game, I would probably not win the game.
Do I regret voting Matt over Fran. 50 times yes! I honestly would have voted for Fran had the Jaruuds suggested it. As I did say in Matt’s question, it was our biggest mistake taking him out. Keeping in Fran was mostly personal I think because Chelsea had a very close connection with Fran as the two of them have stated and because she had that personal affair with Matt. Like I said, I didn’t want to lose Chelsea’s trust because I knew she was someone I could trust 100% if I showed her I was loyal to her. With that said, I also know that if Fran had went that round, you and Hali would both be in the game and you never would have gotten idoled out which goes back to what I said before about how the two of you were much bigger threats to win the game against ME personally than Fran is so I think in all actuality, it worked out better for me this way than if we had gotten rid of Fran instead of Matt. I’m not saying I don’t regret it, but the more I think about it, it actually did help my game as a whole so I personally don’t think it was as big of a mistake as you and I originally thought.
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Fabio Birza
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| Post #15: 24th Jun 2015 4:32 PM | |
Thanks for your answers Brett! I honestly didn't mean the weasel statement as a negative thing. You got the exact amount of information you needed to advance to next round to next round and with a partner and I think that's pretty impressive. Appreciate all the honestly and really happy for the friendship we made in this game brother!
All 3 of you, thanks for your honesty and answers. This is going to be a tough vote and I think all 3 of you did an amazing job in getting here one way or another. Dont be upset in the outcome of winner, cause you all did great! Good luck! | |
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