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Francesqua
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| Post #1: 22nd Jun 2015 3:01 AM | |
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Looking back at questions it looks like you ranked me #7 for strategy. I realize why you’d do that on a personal level but I took that harsh too. You must not expect my vote at all. You came out saying I was the glue to Jaruud and Oranor and I think that just by saying that I’m in a dumb show called Joey (who is my favorite member of friends beeteedubs) is dumb if I was such a pivotal player to get rid of that round at F8 which you made CLEAR is how you felt.
Why was I SO insignificant as #7 on a strategic scale if I was such an important target to get out at that time? Cause I just think that was a dumb answer if that’s truly truly how you feel. Was it personal or was it strategic to get me out? I don’t know which you would define it as cause either way you seem to brush it over your shoulder when OBVIOUSLY that was the one shot of redemption you had. |
I will answer the rest of it first thing tomorrow. But I think you misinterpreted either my answer or Matt B's question. Well either you did or I did LOL.
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| Everyone - Answer this, because the other less bias jurors will read these and appreciate them! I want you to rank the jury in 2 ways. I want you to rank them on a personal level (who you liked/appreciated the most), and on a strategic level (who you were affiliated with most in the game). I also want you all to compare each juror to a television show - Friends, Game of Thrones, etc. No long descriptions necessary, just little tidbits/a few sentences each. However, for the people ranked near the top of your "personal" ranking, I would love some quotes or instances of friendship to show our social game. |
I ranked the jury based on MY strategic and personal affiliations with them. In that vein, I thought it was very clear you would be on the bottom since we barely talked and it was nearly never about the game. I request you to read my answer to Hali's question (when I post it, JESUS that one is taking a loooooong time :P )
And again I stated that my interpretation of Matt B's question would be how I feel about the shows. I liked Joey. Both on Friends and on Joey. I didn't state at any point you were dumb like he was portrayed to be. Rather I stated your ability and desire to make friends with everyone in the game and try to make sure everyone was having fun as being a characteristic you shared most with Joey. SPECIFICALLY the Joey from "Joey". I am sorry for the confusion there and I hope this clears at least that part up.
I will do the rest later but I felt like addressing these immediately because your interpretation of it was absolutely not my intention.
Thanks for the questions Fabio.
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Francesqua
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| Post #2: 22nd Jun 2015 4:00 PM | |
Hi again Fabio. If you don't mind I'd like to offer rebuttals to a few of you comments along with answers to the questions you have asked.
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| I do not commend games based on immunity wins (Despite the last challenge, that was awesome) I find immunity winning games boring, Mike was an obvious hero for siding with Shirin towards the end, whereas when I saw things heading your way at the end of my vote, and I knew you didn’t like me personally but I was hurt, cause the time we did talk I enjoyed it and you came off as super super arrogant after I left. BRAGGING about how you felt alone and how this was the only way to win. ... |
I am actually a little confused by this part. At no point do I remember saying I was alone. I always had at least one true ally all the way till Final 5. And I did what I could to fight for both myself and my allies.
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| I commend you a thousand times for your competition wins but you did NOT Survive in this game socially. Your proudest and only real achievement in this game other than your immunity wins should be when Brett/Chelsea decided to vote Hali over you, that was their mistake though and not yours. (along with my demise- but I completely blame myself/Jaruud/Ciera for my demise) |
I am going to have to disagree with you if you are giving 100% credit of Hali being voted out to Brett and Chelsea. If you look at the votes in that tribal, Brett and Chelsea were no longer the middle men when they absolutely still should have been. Hali and John voted Chelsea. Chelsea/Brett voted Hali. Ciera and I were the deciding votes. We successfully capitalized on all the chaos that the Final 7 vote had caused. Hali even admitted in her question that she tried to get me voted out by approaching Chelsea and Brett. But it was my stronger bond with Chelsea, Hali's threat status being way bigger than mine even after my 2 immunity wins and the fact that Ciera and I were able to play Hali, John against Chelsea/Brett that got both of us through that round.
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| You’ve been called a gamebot, I never talked game to you but I did talk GoT with you and I loved our talk. Do you believe you were a gamebot? Did you have fun? Everything seemed very calculated before posting at anytime, and I think that’s why you were seen as a gamebot. |
I loved our talk about GOT. But, and no offense to you personally on this one, that was an episode for the ages. And talking about that with any true GOT fan was always going to be wonderful and exciting conversation. In every other conversation between us, there was a palpable awkwardness and it felt forced. I have been called a gamebot many times before. I think it stems from the fact that I tend to analyze and choose my words carefully while chatting instead of being loose and a little carefree. That is a result of me being a paranoid player and always being worried that my words will get misinterpreted. Ironically enough, that is what ends up happening since people think I am being fake when I am only just really being cautious and a little scared. Despite what everyone thinks, I had a blast. With regards to everything in the game. I enjoyed getting to know y'all. I enjoyed the fierce competition. There was nothing calculated about my friendships with Chase, Misty, Matt B and Ciera. There was nothing calculated about my bond with Chelsea. There was nothing calculated when I talked with Hali about cheesecakes or the time when I was so frustrated that my laundromat dryers keep fucking up and my clothes took 4 hours to dry -_- or the time when I talked with JK about Bo and about enjoying fun activities in the water. Those were me just being friendly and chatting about everyday stuff and/or things I had in common with the other players. And I enjoyed those conversations just as much as I enjoyed other facets of the game. But when it comes to the game, I am passionate about it so I can come on too strong as and when talks shift to discussing strategies, voting plans, alliances and all that good stuff. If that makes it hard to believe that my casual talks were anything but genuine then so be it. I enjoy both aspects of the game equally and never sacrifice one for the other.
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| Theres no way in shape or form that I think you would be here without idols and challenges. Your social game was super flawed, how would you have navigated without immunity? Would you have not been so “OOOOH YEAH!! BACK AGAINST THE WALL!!” Or would you have tried to fit in more? |
There is no denying the fact that after the way things went at F10, F9 I would not be here without immunity wins. And as much as I would like to hope that the bonds I did create with Chelsea and to a lesser extent with Hali and JK, without immunity wins, a better social game would not have got me to the end. It could have bought me an extra round or two at best. But there are somethings that no one knows that I planned but never went through with because I didn't need to. Even after winning immunity in the previous round, I entered every round thinking I need to do something in the event that I don't win immunity this time. A small instance of this is a little speech I wrote up to use at the F7 tribal council. Granted the speech was written after I won immunity but the idea and the beginning of the execution of this idea was well before I did the IC. Here it is. Sorry if this is getting too long LOL.
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So this is something I thought up in my sleep. Yes I now dream about this game. I need help.
Yes I needed immunity JP but more than that I REALLY wanted to go to exile again. The benefit about being an outcast and not having people to talk to you is that I have time. Lots and lots of time. And I made use of that time to think. I have had this conversation in the game before but y'all hosts seem to be big fans of Cagayan and seem to have modeled the season a bit like the events of Cagayan. Which made me want to look around the camp and try my luck at finding something that could help me in the game. Lo and behold ...
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If y'all want proof this is real, go check out the merge feast post and click on the little smiley before the pic of all the booze. |
Its a start JP. It reduces the chances of me and Cierabae finding a prize from 1 in 9 to 1 in 8. But of course its better than that. Because so many players have come before us, the pool of possibilities is already low. And to have even a flicker of a light of hope in complete darkness is worth a lot to people clinging on to the last shreds of desperation. We used what we know from previous trips and this new piece of information. AND THE LAWD SMILED UPON US :D :D :D
Now I could very well be bluffing JP. And I could very well be telling the truth. Then comes the question of whether I am really going to play this idol on Ciera or will I save it for myself. These are questions that I know the answer to. And Ciera knows. But do these others know? Do they really know for sure what we will do?? We'll find out. But until then here is some food for thought.
Last time when me and Ciera did this, we had no problems in agreeing on who to vote for. No issues whatsoever. This time we have a bit of a ... domestic you could say. I want to vote for Hali girl. She is awesome. She is the hero. But she just doesn't want to work with me :\ Ciera disagrees though. She wants to vote against Chelsea. Now we are still not on the same page. But we are here all day and if anyone feels like helping us out with our little tiff, we'd really appreciate it. Either way JP, this is gonna be a fun day, a fun tribal and a fun fun fun finish to the game :)
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What I want to emphasize here is that this thought of me being a one-dimensional challenge whoring robot who didn't do anything else is patently false. And I hope that comes across in this answer. I didn't go through with this speech because it was clear I didn't need to. Ciera and I were able to pit Hali and John against Brett and Chelsea before tribal and all the confusion regarding the voting rules happened. And I wasn't going to vote against Hali when I knew I didn't need to.
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However, I do believe that you were forced into that position and despite coming off as what I believd to be arrogant, you were able to rally jury members to your cause because of how out there you, whereas it felt personal towards me. I completely acknowledge and commend you for your out there and in it to win it, ALL IN OR NOTHING attitude, because whether or not I was rooting for you, it was so much fun to watch. I knew that at F4 it was you or JK but I desperately wanted to see your social game come out at the later stages opposed to immunity. I think if that were the case you would hands down get a unanimous sweep, but you can’t blame yourself in trying your hardest in every challenge. It takes incredible patience and a drive, especially with F4, and at F8, Hali and I must be kicking ourselves in the ass every damn night about counting just a few extra numbers ;-)
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I agree 100% that I was arrogant the round you left. Yes it was personal. I felt a gush of emotions after finally being able to avenge Misty in this game, something that I thought I would not be able to accomplish after having seen what happened last round. My emotions got the better of me and I couldn't help myself.
As for letting my social game come out, I had already lived through being lied to twice by both Chelsea and Brett that they would side with me. I am not sure whether people know but after knowing I had gone for a fairly long while (Brett knew I had gone for at least 12 hours; Chelsea may have known), Brett came to me and said the other two are coming after me and he would tie the vote for me if I lost. Chelsea had promised me this the previous day. That in my eyes is the essence of the games that Brett and, to slightly lesser extent, Chelsea played. Find out who they believe is going to be in the deciding seat, promise them the world to ensure their own asses are saved, and then confer and decide what they think is best for their own games based on who is safe and who is vulnerable. It is a brilliant strategy if it is an F2 and the two of them end up in that F2 together. But that is not the case here. I didn't for one second believe Brett. Chelsea has been my blind spot for this entire game and I think with my heart when it comes to her. But even if she did tell me this around the time I had only just started doing the challenge, it in no way wanted to make me stop and rely on her. I wanted my place here in this FTC to be based on my own efforts, my own decisions and by my own choice.
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| Despite all this negativity I seem to be sending your way, I do appreciate your performance and your FTC answers so far. I realize that you’re answering certain questions for certain people, it’s soooo late here and I’m tired and the booze are wearing off the more and more I go. I think you and I would really get along but I think we both knew we were at completely opposite ends of the spectrum and am terribly, terribly sorry if I seem aggressive to not just you but Hali/Brett or anyone. I played hard and so did you, and I’m passionate about crowning this winner. |
Despite what you think, I am not ignoring you as a juror. And I won't ignore Matty as a juror. I think this part may have been when you thought I shafted you on the strategic jury ranking answer. I hope that is the case. We were never going to be able to earnestly work together in this game based on the way things shook out from the very beginning. But I hope I have shown in my answers so far that I respect you, and indeed, was afraid of you as a player in this game and a force to be reckoned with. My personal animosity was a result of my love for Misty and you happened to be the guy I directed it towards. It was strictly within the confines of this game. I admire your passion for the game and your willingness to not only call me out for when you thought I was being unfair to you, but to give me a chance to explain myself. I hope that I have shown the same passion in my answers. I have had a fantastic time answering all these questions so far. I hope the jury has had just as much fun reading them.
Thanks again for the questions and comments Fabio. Please let me know if you need anything more. | | |
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